Than Prat? He got outridden most of the winter by Rosario.

What happened to Sueno? Thought he was in.

Hasn't worked in over a month (since the Lexington).

Everfast joins Preakness mix

Derby Time ?
 

The winning time is listed as 2:03.02.

Is that MS time or CH time?



http://www.equibase.com/premium/char...9&cy=USA&rn=12

Well great. A Take Charge Indy colt from Calumet and Dale Romans? It'd be nice if he did well for all their sakes. I look forward to anything and everything Dale decides to utter between now and race day. It's rather a shame he's such a good trainer. He could be doing stand-up or at the very least tv commentary. Good luck, Dale!

It’s listed as 2:03.93 - but anyway, it’s Maximum Security's time.

5/18 (PIM): PREAKNESS STAKES

1. War of Will (Casse/Gaffalione) 4-1
2. Bourbon War (Hennig/I. Ortiz) 12-1
3. Warrior's Charge (Cox/Castellano) 12-1
4. Improbable (Baffert/Smith) 5-2
5. Owendale (Cox/Geroux) 10-1
6. Market King (Lukas/Court) 30-1
7. Alwaysmining (Rubley/Centeno) 8-1
8. Signalman (McPeek/B. Hernandez) 30-1
9. Bodexpress (A. Delgado/J. Velazquez) 20-1
10. Everfast (Romans/Rosario) 50-1
11. Laughing Fox (Asmussen/Santana) 20-1
12. Anothertwistafate (Wright/J. Ortiz) 6-1
13. Win Win Win (Trombetta/Pimental) 15-1

It’s been brutally quiet here the past two days.

Anyone have any thoughts on Warrior’s Charge? I’m not crazy about the pedigree with Munnings as the sire...but his last race was a really nice race. I’ve got to think he’s at least got a chance to hit the board.

Reminds me of Bernardini - perhaps more about Castellano and the couple of wins coming in than the running style - Bernardini had already showed signs of being able to come off the pace.

I would leave him off at your own risk!

The obvious questions are the pace scenario (who gets the lead tomorrow) and whether or not he can get the extra furlong....

if he could get the lead ala Oxbow he may be a player but I don't see a 48+ half in this race....Im thinking thats going to be Market King's plan. Im hoping that Anothertwist comes out of the gate gunning for position along with a few others and they keep it up on the backstretch. I'll probably lose but my primary players will be WOW, Bourbon War:{>:, and Owendale, Im off Improbable so again, I will probably lose.

I think that Jose Ortiz is gonna send Anothertwistafate no matter what they tell him.

Yep...I agree

I don’t blame you. I’m mixed between tossing WOW or Improbable. Partly value based but also because I like quite a few of the new horses. I feel like WOW will get overbet on the assumption that he would have finished well if not for the foul - but I’m not so sure. Improbable is the most consistent of these horses so it’s hard for me to toss him...but he’s also running his 3rd race in 5 weeks and I wonder how much the Arkansas and Kentucky derby’s took out of him. Baffert himself does not seem overly confident in him.

I’m 100% with you on Bourbon War and Owendale. I absolutely love Owendale in this race and if he doesn’t hit the board then I won’t be cashing a ticket. All my horizontals are going to single him.

Bernardini winning the Preakness was the weirdest experience in that we watched the race at Suffolk Downs downstairs. They showed the track feed. The pan shot that you see for every race is on all the TVs. It’s so loud you can’t hear a thing. We watch the race, bet the winner, and are ecstatic. We give my brother the tickets and roll out of there to beat the traffic since the track was jammed. Never even knew Barbaro broke down. RIP Barbaro

My two top ones for this race that I will have on tickets are Alwaysmining and Bourbon War. I wont have WOW on any tickets.

I had Bernardini that day too. For the win and in the exacta. I was 20 years old and I think that was the biggest ticket I had ever cashed at the time. I wish I had a bigger bankroll then - I think I only cashed for $200-something total on the race.

I remember having a hundred bucks on Bernardini to win, which was bittersweet, because I was a Barbaro fan and had bet him in the Derby. I know it looks like a redboard, but true. That was the year that the #8 won all three legs of the TC (and I didn't have Jazil in the Belmont).

Anyone have thoughts on Owendale’s trip? I’m hearing and seeing a lot of people that think he lost too much ground going wide — but I didn’t think his trip was that bad. Maybe swung wide a little early but he’s got a running style where you want to get him clear.

Plenty of peeps were ill that he missed second by an inch.....

Oh, I’m sure - and maybe it cost him 2nd but I couldn’t fault the ride too much. I had Owendale keyed in my trifecta so him finishing 2nd and 3rd didn’t matter to me. Problem was that I didn’t see Everfast as having a legit shot to finish anywhere near the money and he wasn’t on a single one of my tickets. Maybe that’s just confirmation for something I already knew - Robby Albarado is not a very good jockey and Rosario is.

I wonder what would have happened had he been taken back closer to where Everfast was. He also got beaten to the inside by Signalman, but I feel like if Geroux was a little more aggressive he could have gotten to that spot. All in all, not a bad trip, but a little nuance and he’s 2nd.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1129885812093534208

talk about a happy winner :tro: and look who is in the background, Steve and Tina!

Steve, the definition of "unfazed" in the video....hahahaha!

6/8 (BEL): BELMONT STAKES

War of Will (Casse)
Sir Winston (Casse)
Intrepid Heart (Pletcher)
Spinoff (Pletcher)
Master Fencer (Tsunoda)
Tacitus (Mott)
Everfast (Romans)
Owendale (Cox)
Tax (Gargan)
Global Campaign (Hough) ~ Dwyer; OH Derby

With how things are going, I’m going to have to include Spinoff in my bets because I have no clue why he’s in the race.

One of the more colorful quotes I've heard about the Belmont is: "that horse couldn't get the distance on the back of a flatbed truck." I guess Pletcher thinks this one could get the distance without the services of the truck?

A horse trailer might help.

Tough to toss Pletcher in the Belmont.

I didn't say toss him, although it might sound like that. I was just offering a possible explanation for why Pletcher is entering him which is he obviously thinks he can get the distance.

6/8 (BEL): BELMONT STAKES

War of Will (Casse)
Sir Winston (Casse)
Intrepid Heart (Pletcher)
Spinoff (Pletcher)
Master Fencer (Tsunoda)
Tacitus (Mott)
Everfast (Romans)
Owendale (Cox)
Game Winner (Baffert)......by (CANDY RIDE (ARG) - INDYAN GIVING, BY A.P. INDY )...AP Indy, who won the Peter Pan and the Belmont in 1992.
Tax (Gargan)
Global Campaign (Hough) ~ Dwyer; OH Derby....( CURLIN - GLOBE TROT, BY A.P. INDY )....and its a Filly in the Belmont! but Curlin was close.



Pedigree plays.

I actually like Spinoff’s pedigree a bit for the Belmont...he just hasn’t run like he wants the distance.

Pretty bold ignoring 2 sons of Tapit when playing pedigrees. One of those is Intrepid Heart, who is also a half to Belmont runner-up Commissioner and his broodmare sire is Belmont winner Touch Gold.

Not ignoring them, there are others too who might have a pedigree angle. Was just looking for something off.

In case anyone missed it, Baffert said Game Winner will skip the Belmont.

Bourbon War added to Belmont field..

Could be the bet of the year kind of like Creator

not off that Preakness effort! :rolleyes:

BW starting to remind me of Dollar Bill....

exactly! :tro: