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Danzig 05-08-2015 12:01 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...urge/70885118/

GenuineRisk 05-08-2015 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1026197)

From the article:

"From 1972 through 1991, the suspects were subjected to mock executions and electric shock and beaten with telephone books as their interrogators flung racial epithets at them. A Chicago Police Department review board ruled in 1993 that Burge's officers had used torture. He was fired.

Burge and his officers have denied wrongdoing.

The statute of limitations ran out on his alleged crimes, but Burge was convicted in 2010 of perjury in civil proceedings for lying about torture he oversaw. He was sentenced to 4˝ years in prison and completed his sentence this year. Burge continues to receive a police pension."

One cop costs Chicago over $100 million in legal fees and settlements. But he still gets his pension. Impressive.

dellinger63 05-08-2015 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1026228)
From the article:

"From 1972 through 1991, the suspects were subjected to mock executions and electric shock and beaten with telephone books as their interrogators flung racial epithets at them. A Chicago Police Department review board ruled in 1993 that Burge's officers had used torture. He was fired.

Burge and his officers have denied wrongdoing.

The statute of limitations ran out on his alleged crimes, but Burge was convicted in 2010 of perjury in civil proceedings for lying about torture he oversaw. He was sentenced to 4˝ years in prison and completed his sentence this year. Burge continues to receive a police pension."

One cop costs Chicago over $100 million in legal fees and settlements. But he still gets his pension. Impressive.

That's the UNION for you and why Chicago is so f'd up with a debt of $63 billion. If only the city and the State would follow the path set by Gov. Walker in Wisconsin they'd have a chance. But that will never happen.

Meanwhile the teachers are planning on striking again because their UNION tells them so, f'k the kids and taxpayers!

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/chica...n-debt-burden/

Danzig 05-08-2015 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1026228)
From the article:

"From 1972 through 1991, the suspects were subjected to mock executions and electric shock and beaten with telephone books as their interrogators flung racial epithets at them. A Chicago Police Department review board ruled in 1993 that Burge's officers had used torture. He was fired.

Burge and his officers have denied wrongdoing.

The statute of limitations ran out on his alleged crimes, but Burge was convicted in 2010 of perjury in civil proceedings for lying about torture he oversaw. He was sentenced to 4˝ years in prison and completed his sentence this year. Burge continues to receive a police pension."

One cop costs Chicago over $100 million in legal fees and settlements. But he still gets his pension. Impressive.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/jon-burge...eleased-prison

has info in there about his pension. it's outrageous that he still receives that.

last paragraph, which is spot on:

“[Burge] has the opportunity to start his life anew with the funds he receives from his police pension that is funded by the Chicago taxpayers,” Joey Mogul, an attorney with the People’s Law Office, told reporters during a press conference at Chicago City Hall on Thursday, “while those he tortured continue to struggle to cope with the torture they endured without one red cent or redress from the city of Chicago.”

Danzig 05-08-2015 05:51 PM

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...envy-the-world

Danzig 05-08-2015 06:00 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/08/us/san...xts/index.html

An issue nationwide.
The civil rights act was a big step. But certainly not the end of the journey to true equality.

dellinger63 05-09-2015 09:16 AM

WTF is this country coming to?

Quote:

What are little boys made of?
What are little boys made of?
Snips and snails
And puppy-dogs' tails
That's what little boys are made of
What are little girls made of?
What are little girls made of?
Sugar and spice
And everything nice
That's what little girls are made of


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2214550

GenuineRisk 05-09-2015 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1026242)
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/08/us/san...xts/index.html

An issue nationwide.
The civil rights act was a big step. But certainly not the end of the journey to true equality.

While we're piling on:

http://mic.com/articles/106886/one-g...-s-not-the-nfl

Danzig 05-09-2015 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1026393)

sad to say, I know first hand the types of things a policeman can exhibit after being in that job.
I lived it, it's not fun. that's why I have said that there should be breaks from active duty, therapy, etc. when someone spends every day dealing with 'the bad guy'...well, you get jaded. and that's putting it mildly.
suicide attempt by one parent, alcoholism, serious abuse...it goes on from there. it wasn't pretty.
and people wonder why I live fourteen hours away from my family.

GenuineRisk 05-10-2015 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1026399)
sad to say, I know first hand the types of things a policeman can exhibit after being in that job.
I lived it, it's not fun. that's why I have said that there should be breaks from active duty, therapy, etc. when someone spends every day dealing with 'the bad guy'...well, you get jaded. and that's putting it mildly.
suicide attempt by one parent, alcoholism, serious abuse...it goes on from there. it wasn't pretty.
and people wonder why I live fourteen hours away from my family.

Oh God. I'm sorry. Good for you for recognizing you need the distance. And for clearly breaking the cycle with your own kids. :)

dellinger63 05-10-2015 12:05 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jenny-...b_5659617.html

Danzig 05-10-2015 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1026432)
Oh God. I'm sorry. Good for you for recognizing you need the distance. And for clearly breaking the cycle with your own kids. :)

Thanks. My oldest made my day not long ago. I said something about some kids not winning the mommy daddy lottery. He said 'we sure did'. They're so sweet! I have fun with my grown kids, but sometimes I miss my little ones.

dellinger63 05-10-2015 06:04 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_6172092.html

dellinger63 05-10-2015 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 1026446)

Unfortunate this guy couldn't have joined the ladies.

http://thesmokinggun.com/documents/r...urbator-890654

dellinger63 05-10-2015 07:28 PM

Another banner day.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ich-chain.html

Danzig 05-11-2015 09:19 AM

http://www.theroot.com/articles/news...news_host.html


yeah, cause I want government policies to be taken from a book written by people who didn't know where the sun went at night.

GenuineRisk 05-11-2015 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1026470)
Thanks. My oldest made my day not long ago. I said something about some kids not winning the mommy daddy lottery. He said 'we sure did'. They're so sweet! I have fun with my grown kids, but sometimes I miss my little ones.

Awww! Having had mine a lot later, I'm still in the little one stage. There are worse things to wake up to on a Monday morning than discovering a wee imp climbed out of his bed so he could snuggle in between Mama and Daddy.

Danzig 05-11-2015 02:53 PM

http://www.slate.com/articles/health...oring_the.html

Danzig 05-12-2015 11:32 AM

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astro..._heretics.html

GenuineRisk 05-13-2015 10:01 AM

Cop pulls over the wrong car, and even when told the mistake is caught on video refuses to look at it until media gets involved:

http://jalopnik.com/justice-police-d...hal-1703943408

Danzig 05-13-2015 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1026781)
Cop pulls over the wrong car, and even when told the mistake is caught on video refuses to look at it until media gets involved:

http://jalopnik.com/justice-police-d...hal-1703943408

awesome.
my husband and some others spent the night in jail once due to a mix up.
they were on shore leave, walked into a bar right when a group left, seemingly in a bit of a hurry. they sat at an empty table, and before they could place an order, the cops hauled them off to jail.
the next morning the bar owner came, looked at them, looked at the cop and said 'those aren't the right guys'.
the group that left in a rush was the group they wanted, but the bartender just directed the cops to the table they'd vacated, without paying attention to who was at the table.
luckily for the driver, it was quickly fixed...
as for cops who are 'so sure', that's how we keep getting innocent people charged, convicted, and spending years behind bars or on death row-or worse. i'm sure everyone has heard by now about the cops who have altered evidence because there isn't enough to prove the guy they 'just know did it' actually did it.

Danzig 05-13-2015 03:17 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7259486.html

Danzig 05-14-2015 10:16 AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...perin-primary/

i saw part of the interview....i was wondering at first if it was a joke. but no, it was serious.
the interviewer apologized, but i have to wonder what the hell the guy was thinking! did he think he was being clever? i think it was disgusting.

Danzig 05-18-2015 08:56 PM

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/nine-kill...xas-restaurant

Danzig 05-19-2015 10:39 AM

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...o_threats.html

dellinger63 05-19-2015 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1027794)

So radical Sunni Muslims are now conservatives? LMFAO

Are the Bloods, Crips and MS-13 now liberals?

The author should be embarrassed in her feeble attempt to bash conservatives, using the senseless killing of a young, innocent girl. But then again I must consider the audience she is writing to.

Insanity is the pursuit of delusion at all costs while sanity is the pursuit of reality at all costs and Slate proves itself daily to be an insane publication serving the delusional readers it caters to.

BTW They should stick to insane topics they are more familiar with. Like Bruce Jenner now being a woman just because he says it is so. :zz:

OldDog 05-20-2015 08:16 AM

If only those poor, misguided boys could find good jobs.

Danzig 05-20-2015 04:49 PM

http://venturebeat.com/2015/05/19/se...e-white-house/

I bet whoever has done this thinks it's soooo hilarious. sad.

Danzig 05-20-2015 06:29 PM

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...ng_cheney.html


so....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro

Danzig 05-21-2015 01:10 AM

Er...
Remember when scientists and others with intelligence were celebrated? Too bad those days seem to be gone.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/20/politi...nge/index.html

Intellectual arrogance? Arrogance?!

Jeb hasnt declared yet, but he sure is tarnishing himself pretty quickly.

bigrun 05-21-2015 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1028041)
Er...
Remember when scientists and others with intelligence were celebrated? Too bad those days seem to be gone.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/20/politi...nge/index.html

Intellectual arrogance? Arrogance?!

Jeb hasnt declared yet, but he sure is tarnishing himself pretty quickly.

:D:tro:


Danzig 05-25-2015 11:19 AM

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/racist-le...-new-york-town

Disgusting, the work of a coward.

dellinger63 05-25-2015 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1028596)

Ding, ding, ding for the first time in a long time we agree!

I'd hope authorities are checking the letter for fingerprints and or DNA. Just hope the good citizens of Lindenhurst rally behind the family and throw out the welcome mat while denouncing the a-hole or a-holes that were behind the letter.

GenuineRisk 05-26-2015 11:54 AM

I'm sure we are all shocked, shocked, to learn that TLC's cash cow, The Duggars, apparently covered up the fact that one of their sons molested several of his sisters:

http://defamer.gawker.com/josh-dugga...a-t-1706096839

Danzig 05-26-2015 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1028791)
I'm sure we are all shocked, shocked, to learn that TLC's cash cow, The Duggars, apparently covered up the fact that one of their sons molested several of his sisters:

http://defamer.gawker.com/josh-dugga...a-t-1706096839

i saw that the other day. also read in an article about some other ultra rights who have gotten in trouble due to sexual shenanigans.
sanctimonious people so often get caught out for doing worse than they imagined the sinners they were haranguing could ever have done.
and it all is bs--they said the boy got counseling, but he didn't. he went and stayed with a church friend a few months...oh, and got a stern talking to from a trooper who is, as i type this, in jail for child porn.
they called church elders, not the cops...wtf?! even the other parents whose daughter got molested, why didn't they call the cops?

our number one job as parents is to protect our kids from the evils of this world..yeah, they were worried about protecting themselves--and their money.

GenuineRisk 05-26-2015 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1028796)
i saw that the other day. also read in an article about some other ultra rights who have gotten in trouble due to sexual shenanigans.
sanctimonious people so often get caught out for doing worse than they imagined the sinners they were haranguing could ever have done.
and it all is bs--they said the boy got counseling, but he didn't. he went and stayed with a church friend a few months...oh, and got a stern talking to from a trooper who is, as i type this, in jail for child porn.
they called church elders, not the cops...wtf?! even the other parents whose daughter got molested, why didn't they call the cops?

our number one job as parents is to protect our kids from the evils of this world..yeah, they were worried about protecting themselves--and their money.

If someone is a moral scold, especially a very public one, I tend to wonder what skeletons are hanging out in his or her closet.

Last I read, TLC is thinking about just firing the son from the show, so they can keep the show going. Because apparently, the parents protecting him from legal repercussions isn't disgusting enough to keep them off the air.

Danzig 05-26-2015 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1028800)
If someone is a moral scold, especially a very public one, I tend to wonder what skeletons are hanging out in his or her closet.

Last I read, TLC is thinking about just firing the son from the show, so they can keep the show going. Because apparently, the parents protecting him from legal repercussions isn't disgusting enough to keep them off the air.

lol
i said exactly that on slate, about skeletons falling out of the closet. yeah, the parents behavior is reprehensible. they knew this was going on, and handled it...poorly. i get that no one wants a son to get 'in trouble', but at his age, counseling would have done wonders, and most likely is all that would have been needed. at that age, they can typically counsel so that the behavior won't continue.

here's link to a story about other fundies getting in trouble:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...cking_the.html

and here's a new offering:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...love_them.html

when the huckster was on the daily show, he dared call out beyonce for how children might view her onstage behavior. stewart brought up him hanging out with the nuge, but didn't really get into why that mattered...ted nugent had a couple actually sign over their daughter to him as guardian--she was 16. they knew the reason why ted wanted to be her 'guardian'...so, huck will hang out with statutory rapists on the one hand, and call out a females on stage behavior...and he sees nothing wrong with that?
it is amazing to me how someone can say one thing, and do another. as tho there's a disconnect between what they see, and what they do.

when i was at a continuing education class not long ago, they showed clips of a documentary, to discuss ethics. the documentary was done by a college in texas (a and m perhaps?) and the subject was jack abramoff. he came and did an interview with them. one thing jumped out at me, and i really think it's a key to these peoples' behavior.
he said (in a nutshell) that he was a very ethical person. over time, he quit really discussing with himself if something was ethical or not...he began to go down the wrong road, but he felt when he thought about it-well, i'm an ethical person, so if i made that choice, it must be ethical'. of course it wasn't...but i really think that's how people end up in the situations they end up in. they stop really thinking about a question, a deed, an offering of a gift, etc, because hey, they're ethical, so their behavior must be.

Danzig 05-26-2015 02:34 PM

'Duggar has this much access in part because he was the executive director, at the precocious age of 27, of the Family Research Council's FRC Action, a Christian-right lobbying group that fights against gay rights, reproductive rights, and even the Violence Against Women Act, calling it a “slush fund.”'

And extremist is the right word for it. While TLC's 19 Kids and Counting show spins them as a kooky but ultimately loving family, the reality is that they're part of a far-right Quiverfull slice of the already far-right cult of Christian patriarchy. A big part of their religion is the belief that a woman should, to be blunt, never exercise a moment of sexual agency in her entire life. Prior to marriage, she is not allowed to have sex or even kiss or hold hands with someone. After marriage, she is not allowed to decline sex if her husband wants it. She is not allowed birth control, even if giving birth will kill her.

wut?!?!
i have never seen the show, had no idea they were so......um, what's the word...
crazy?
loony? kooky?
hello, if we kept going with our population the way we had been, we'd reach critical mass. the earth can only hold so many people.
oh, wait...silly me, that's science and i'm sure holds no place with these idiots.

dellinger63 05-26-2015 03:28 PM

Quote:

A man from Kenya is reportedly offering a dowry for the hand of President Obama’s 16-year-old daughter Malia — 70 sheep, 50 cows and 30 goats.

Felix Kiprono told The Nairobian newspaper that he has long dreamed to marry Malia, the oldest of the Obamas’ children.

“I got interested in her in 2008,” he said. “As a matter of fact, I haven’t dated anyone since and promise to be faithful to her.”
:zz:

Hmm interested in her when she was 9? Think Josh Duggar may have found a friend.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...heep-50-cows-/

Danzig 05-27-2015 11:52 AM

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate..._released.html


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