March 7, 2011

Sen. Mark Miller

Parts Unknown, IL

Dear Senator Miller,

Thank you for your hand-delivered letter with an offer to meet, in Illinois, about the business and future direction of Wisconsin.

Let’s set aside how bizarre that is for a moment.

As you know, this legislation is designed to finally balance the state budget, prevent layoffs and create jobs in the real world. There are hundreds of thousands of unemployed or underemployed Wisconsinites, and at least 1,500 more whose jobs are in the balance because of your media stunt. We all deserve better than this.

In the meantime, members of your caucus have been meeting with the governor’s staff, talking to the media, trying to find a way back to Madison, and contradicting your message in public. In case you don’t remember, you were present yourself at one of those meetings with the governor’s staff. Your grasp of reality, and control of your caucus as minority leader, continues to amaze me.

As you know, your opportunity to compromise and amend the bill was on the floor of the state Senate. As you know, you forfeited that right and opportunity when you decided to flee the state instead of doing your job.

Your stubbornness in trying to ignore the last election and protect the broken status quo is truly shameful. While we wait for you and your colleagues to finally show up, Senate Republicans continue to stand ready to do the job we were elected to do, here in Wisconsin. I hope you are enjoying your vacation, and your vacation from reality.

Sincerely,

Scott Fitzgerald

Senate Majority Leader

CC: Governor Scott Walker

Yeah, Fitzgerald sounds like a real ass - especially when, after he went on TV and "named names" yesterday, he was publicly accused of outright lying by the folks whose names he dropped.

You really have some bizzaro prejudices, assumptions and ideas that are not true. You'd probably do better dropping everything you "think" you know about where I get information about Wisconsin, and sticking to reality.

"Biased media polls"? You mean every poll taken in Wisconsin this past week, including the most right-wing biased conservative ones? You just don't like what those polls are now showing.

Elections elect a governor, but they also elect state legislatures, where the different reps represent the concerns of the locals from their areas. There is no "taking over" in the legislature. Judging by the actions of your fellow citizens, it's clear that Walker wasn't elected dictator as he mistakenly believes, he's not going to get away with major changes that he didn't campaign upon and tried to sneak through, and there is a great deal of buyer's remorse. Such is democracy.

The Democratic letter to the GOP Senators
 

As Wiphan is so proud of the Republican response, might as well post the original letter.

Thanks for you unbias objective opinion

In case you forgot I actually live in WI and interact with the public citizens of WI on a daily basis and there is plenty of support for walker and outrage against the dems that the media refuses to cover. More importantly Go UWM panthers!

Good news $100/day penalty starts today !!

That is indeed my unbiased objective opinion after watching him on television and listening to what he had to say on one of the pundit shows. The guy acted like a screeching immature baby.

Then I read the letter. Fits him. Unprofessional.

Sorry that's not showing for you in the conservative polls, or on the YouTube videos of local town halls (not media productions), nor in the number of "pro Walker" supporters that are not showing up in anywhere near the numbers of the anti's.

The Koch's got 400 or so at one of the bus stops this weekend. That's good!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41977974/ns/us_news/


Wis. gov. proposes union compromise in e-mails
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— Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker has offered to keep certain collective bargaining rights in place for state workers in a proposed compromise aimed at ending a nearly three-week standoff with absent Senate Democrats, according to e-mails released Tuesday by his office.

The e-mails, some dated as recently as Sunday, show a softened stance in Walker's talks with the 14 Democrats who fled to Illinois to block a vote on his original proposal that would strip nearly all collective bargaining rights for public workers and force concessions amounting to an average 8 percent pay cut.

Sneaky bastards

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_wisconsin_budget_unions

Finally! Now I can get back to the Charlie Show.

Yeah. They've just signed their guaranteed recalls. Wow. And Walker again lies outright to the Democrats. I can't understand why he's so willing to sign his own political death warrant as a demagogue. He's not a smart guy, is he?

smart enough to fool the Dems.

This is why I think the stupidest person that ever comes on here is the guy who thinks both parties are the same. No, simpleton, they are not the same. This is one issue that displays it in full. One party supports the rights of unions, and the other does not. 1 Republican voted against taking away collective bargaining rights (because he's from a tough district.) 18 yes 1 no. I guarantee you the Dems would of all voted against it. One would have to be so damn stupid to think these two parties are alike. The only reason they get results that don't differ greatly is because members of the other party are there in rather equal numbers. When they aren't, like right now in Wisconsin, you now see that, (given an overwhelming majority to work with,) the parties are indeed very different in ideology.

Not so much, Timmi. They clearly violated Wisconsin's strict open meeting notification law. Probably will not hold up in court. Judges already being called late at night for injunctions, etc.

They also violated the judges recent specific order that the public must be allowed inside the Capital (they were restricting access today).

The lawyers have already descended on this latest nonsense.

The public tonight has retaken the capital building - they literally stormed the doors and have occupied the building. I hope there isn't violence.

Act Blue raised $100,000 in 2 hours tonight, money still flowing in, tomorrow there will be ad blitzes in all the Republican districts. The Republicans in the Assembly still have to vote on this, which is scheduled for tomorrow - which would be another violation of the open meeting notification act (too soon, need 24 hours notice)

Walker stripped every financial thing out of the bill to pass the union busting provision only. The Senate Republican president was on Fox saying the union busting is all about the 2012 Presidential and trying to control donations to beat Obama.

Anybody still naive enough to believe the lie this union busting had anything remotely to do with any budget deficit?

The Union Busting Provision is Fiscal (financial.) That's why they need a quorum to legally pass it. They didn't legally pass it. If it's not fiscal, he could of done this 2-3 weeks ago. I think that the DEMS should of stayed in the state, and had the vote. Maybe then, people would realize how important it is to vote in elections. Force them to change this back by voting these people out (recalling them etc.) In other words, give these idiots (that don't think the parties are different) an education on just how different the party ideologies are.

Here is the video of the illegal committee meeting. Attorneys General for WI already contacted about this law violation

http://wiseye.org/Programming/VideoA...px?evhdid=3885

I think the WI 14 resigned and should have been replaced immediately
they only like democracy when it is a means to an end

destroy liberty

I thought all the polls showed the public was in favor of the democrats and against walker. If this is actually the case how would that help the republicans in 2012

It kinda reminded me of the passage of Obamakare - except Riot and the DEMS thought that was OK procedurally and legal.

Being in the majority has its perks.

:tro::tro::tro::tro:

I triple those trophies!

What an absurd contention. Of course and beyond obviously the passage of that law was entirely legal and procedurally valid. Nobody has ever questioned that, not even the GOP.

That law was also available to the public on the internet for several days before the final vote. It wasn't passed with the Committee Chair outright refusing to give out copies of the law, nor was it passed secretly without proper notice.

You must be mouthing today's right-wing blogosphere meme whining about "reconciliation". Except reconciliation wasn't used to pass the majority of the PPACA. Try again.

It's kind of embarrassing, the pro-Walker talking points being handed out about this over the past couple days. They are simply inaccurate. It does prove how many don't pay any attention whatsoever to what happens in Washington, even for huge deals (like the PPACA)

It won't. The GOP attempt to strip their opposition financially is failing, big time.

The 2012 election will be won in the midwest: Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio. It's nice of Walker to put Wisconsin fully in the "blue" column.

As is being seen in Wisconsin, trying to be a dictator in a democratic republic doesn't work very well.

They need to grow up!
 

Seriously lady you don't live in wisconsin and this has become an absolute joke. Those 14 democrats are a bunch of children playing hide n seek! We don't like that we aren't in control anymore so instead of doing there job lets go hide in illinois! Give me a break! Get your asses back and vote! As for walker he got voted in on the basis that he would help balance wisconsin's budget. Hes trying to fix something that has been needed for awhile. Democrats are still mad that the train fell through, which would have cost the state in the long run. Not to mention you have idiots like jesse jackson and michael moore coming to the state to preach their garbage. The us isn't broke is moore for real. Its time these idiots quit being children get back to wisconsin and vote. Thats what they were elected to do!

Ror!!

Besides all the whinning and crying there is no way this vote will ever be considered illegal - no matter how much you or the Dems or Michael Moore or Jesse Jackass wish it to be so.

They need to change their chant to "It's all over...It's all over" !!

Now get back to work and do something productive like the rest of us.

Really? Please, go ahead explain the similarities to us all.

We'll see. Your Republican Attorney General appears to be on the side of the open meetings law.

There is zero in the union busting that balances the budget. Walker lies.

You guys all repeat the very same talking points. Well done! :D

Oh, yeah, this is all about those evil kindergarten teachers, and police and firemen, busting the budget, those greedy, elite, rich sots!

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...-next-week.php

All this from Ms Riot Huffington - you are such a hypocrite.

And you're a doody-headed poopy mouth!

(easier to just post like you do, than try and make any sense out of your non-answers)

Do tell - you said that Walker shoving through this bill reminded you of how the PPACA was passed. And my asking you to explain how you remotely think those two things have any similarity makes me a hypocrite how?

Nice work Ms Twistoflex..

You' re a hypocrite because of statements like this -

"You guys all repeat the very same talking points. Well done!"

You seem to think you are some visionary that is thinking outside the box - all you do is spout and quote huffington.


My point on Obamakare and the Repair Bill is that both were done through procedural moves by the parties in charge - you liked it when the DEM did it - but you didn't like it when the GOP did it. So you all cry foul and say it's is illegal and it's union busting and people are going homeless and can't pay their mortgages blablabla & wawawawawawa...

I say too bad - sometimes your the stick and sometimes your the ball.

You lost ! Now get over it and stop wasting more tax payer money and time.

The DEM's should hang their heads in shame just for allowing Michael Moore and Jesse Jackass anywhere near the issue.

LOL - nice to know you read the Huffington Post on a regular daily basis. Why don't you post some of my "quotes"?

Nope, I'm no visionary. I just see what happens, and form my own opinion. You just really can't stand that it doesn't agree with your own. Seems to make you really angry. You ever read AP? Daily Beast? WSJ?


I've asked you to explain several times what "procedural move" you think was involved in the passing of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. What was "illegal" about that passage? You so far have refused.

Probably because there wasn't one. Just a regular old bill, debated to death over months, passed by voting.

Yes, the committee meeting appeared illegal. Yes, Walker is only interested in union busting, which has been pretty well proven without a doubt.

The homeless and mortgages stuff must just be your own assumptive prejudices speaking. Sorry, I take no responsibility for the crazy angry voices in your head. Who is "you all" - are you seeing other people? Are you talking to someone other than me? Again, I take no responsibility for what someone else, not me, says. No matter how hard you try to lump "you all" into one big group you can dislike, that you can assume thinks and acts exactly the same, as your fearful imagination tells you.

Remember that when the Wisconsin state Senate turns Democratic in 5 months.

You really seem to have a personal problem with Jesse Jackson and Michael Moore. I only saw that each one was up there for a few hours. And as the Democrats in question were out of state, how where "the Dems" responsible for "allowing" these particular citizens to appear in public places and publicly protest? Which "Dems"? Strange for you to fixate on that. Why would you? You sure seem to assume alot about other groups you don't like.

The lawsuits against the Republican Senators start
 

I hope Walker budgeted for this stuff (like the half-million he cost his county by illegally firing union workers in his last job)

legislative process got you down
democracy not your friend
try intimidation, fear and violence

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...60-503544.html

You mean like the death threats against Obama going up 400 times normal right after the election, and through the inauguration? Senate candidate Sharron Angle saying we should use our "second amendment remedies" if we don't like what our government is doing? Congresswoman Gabby Giffords being shot? Muslim-Kenyan-Communists are coming for YOU!?

Threats and violence are never right. Too bad that's become acceptable talk within the public sphere within the past couple of years.

So after the 400X threat never came to fruition, you're still trying to connect Sharon Angle and Gabby Giffords' being shot? Hanging by a thread now. LOL

BTW maybe your 'Muslim-Kenyan-Communist' can show the way and as his daughters grow up driving, dating and marrying who they want, clitorises' intact, with no fear of being killed by their father for dishonoring him? Now were talking Obama the leader.

your side lost!....get over it!