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kenny p 03-19-2010 01:11 PM

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Temple-3 220/200 GL KP

Lookin grim.

Coach Pants 03-19-2010 01:36 PM

-80
3-2-1

Oakland +9.5
220/200
Missouri
+2
220/200

ateamstupid 03-19-2010 01:45 PM

Clemson/Missouri
Under 144
110/100

Wofford +10
110/100

2MinsToPost 03-19-2010 02:10 PM

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Clemson/Missouri
Under 144
110/100

Wofford +10
110/100

Just left the Coliseum and Wofford had a fairly stout showing of fans (lots were easy on the eyes:D ) tailgating. Picked up a ticket for tonight, pretty darn stoked.

ateamstupid 03-19-2010 02:41 PM

Wofford looks hideous.

ateamstupid 03-19-2010 03:31 PM

Dahlman and Diggs are new men since half.

slotdirt 03-19-2010 03:36 PM

So what I've learned so far from this tournament is that if your team lost to St. John's this year, you aren't going very far. See Siena, Notre Dame, Temple, and presumably, Louisville.

ateamstupid 03-19-2010 03:55 PM

Utah State +130
150/195

ateamstupid 03-19-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Clemson/Missouri
Under 144
110/100

Wofford +10
110/100

+380
18-12-1

Wisconsin's gonna get smoked if they play like that against Cornell.

dalakhani 03-19-2010 04:12 PM

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3-5-3 -120

Morgan St +17.5 55/50
Wofford +10 110/100

4-6-3 -75

Wofford baby!

Ok st -1.5 110/100

philcski 03-19-2010 04:17 PM

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12-7-1 overall +310 3-2 +25 yest.

friday games:
New Mexico St +13 165/150
Missouri +1 165/150 W
Wofford +10 110/100 W
Louisville -1 110/100
Syracuse -16 55/50
Utah St +3.5 110/100
UCSB +17 110/100
WV/Morgan under 138 220/200 W
Oakland/Pitt under 134 110/100 L
Minn/Xavier under 143 110/100 W
Wofford/Wisc under 115.5 110/100 W
Minn/Xavier 2nd half over 75 55/50 L

midday update 5-2 +430

ateamstupid 03-19-2010 05:33 PM

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Utah State +130
150/195

+230
18-13-1

Fine time to have your worst offensive game of the year across the board.

Coach Pants 03-19-2010 06:02 PM

New Mexico St. +12.5
110/100

ateamstupid 03-19-2010 06:29 PM

New Mexico State +12 1/2
110/100

kenny p 03-19-2010 07:06 PM

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midday update 5-2 +430

Nice work.

Coach Pants 03-19-2010 08:40 PM

Louisville even
200/200

dalakhani 03-19-2010 08:43 PM

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4-6-3 -75

Wofford baby!

Ok st -1.5 110/100

4-7-3

-185

Lou 100/100

ateamstupid 03-19-2010 08:54 PM

Vermont +15 1/2
110/100

California -1 1/2
165/150

herkhorse 03-19-2010 08:56 PM

Go UVM!

ateamstupid 03-19-2010 09:03 PM

I'm so goddamn sick of these refs stealing these games from the lower seeds all tournament. LANE VIOLATION IN A TWO-POINT GAME WITH 18.6 SECONDS LEFT?! ARE YOU ****ING SHITTING ME? Then, to not look at the time when it was clear a half-second ran off after the ball went out of bounds on NMSU's possession. Horseshit, awful.

MaTH716 03-19-2010 09:05 PM

Are you kidding me? A lane violation in what would of been a 2 point game with 10 seconds to go. Very weak call by the zebras there. Not to mention that NM got screwed out of a couple tenths of a second when the ball went out of bounds.

MaTH716 03-19-2010 09:06 PM

Beat me to it Joey, Reguardless, it was bad.

Coach Pants 03-19-2010 09:15 PM

There are quite a few people in cbb that want to shine Izzo's knob.

philcski 03-19-2010 09:20 PM

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I'm so goddamn sick of these refs stealing these games from the lower seeds all tournament. LANE VIOLATION IN A TWO-POINT GAME WITH 18.6 SECONDS LEFT?! ARE YOU ****ING SHITTING ME? Then, to not look at the time when it was clear a half-second ran off after the ball went out of bounds on NMSU's possession. Horseshit, awful.

That was ****ING HORSESHIT! I could give a fvck about New Mexico State, its about what is right and fair. It shouldn't matter what the name on your jersey says, but apparently if it's Villanova or Michigan State and you are viewed as a potential ratings generator you get preferential calls, like a ****in lane violation call in a 2 point game after a bricked free throw. Call me a conspiratist but I can GUARANTEE if the situation was reversed Michigan State would NOT have been called.

And then they don't review the clock after the ball went out of bounds, forcing them into an impossible last shot?

Cannon Shell 03-19-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I'm so goddamn sick of these refs stealing these games from the lower seeds all tournament. LANE VIOLATION IN A TWO-POINT GAME WITH 18.6 SECONDS LEFT?! ARE YOU ****ING SHITTING ME? Then, to not look at the time when it was clear a half-second ran off after the ball went out of bounds on NMSU's possession. Horseshit, awful.

While i'm sure this will send you into convulsions that was clearly a lane violation and the last 8 minutes of the game were why the quality of the college game has declined. NMS didnt take ONE GOOD SHOT the last 8 minutes of the game. They seemingly had no offensive sets or an idea of how to create a shot for another player. They didnt box out on the defensive end. They never sent a single guy to hit the offensive boards. They bailed out Mich st at least twice with bad fouls as the shot clock was running down. They missed FT's. If you want to blame the refs for them losing the game on a violation then you watched a completely different game than I did.

Michigan State wasnt much better though they did run a decent set offense which got them open looks and did dominate the defensive boards.

Cannon Shell 03-19-2010 09:33 PM

There was like zero chance that New Mexico State was getting a good shot regardless of being down 2 or 3 or if they had 30 seconds or 2. Sure the game was close and when a lower seed might upset a high seed it can be exciting. But that was a terrible display of basketball.

ateamstupid 03-19-2010 09:33 PM

Maryland/Houston
Over 158
110/100

Cannon Shell 03-19-2010 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
That was ****ING HORSESHIT! I could give a fvck about New Mexico State, its about what is right and fair. It shouldn't matter what the name on your jersey says, but apparently if it's Villanova or Michigan State and you are viewed as a potential ratings generator you get preferential calls, like a ****in lane violation call in a 2 point game after a bricked free throw. Call me a conspiratist but I can GUARANTEE if the situation was reversed Michigan State would NOT have been called.

And then they don't review the clock after the ball went out of bounds, forcing them into an impossible last shot?

Phil it WAS a violation and New Mexico State's offense seemingly revolves around impossible shots.

philcski 03-19-2010 09:38 PM

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While i'm sure this will send you into convulsions that was clearly a lane violation and the last 8 minutes of the game were why the quality of the college game has declined. NMS didnt take ONE GOOD SHOT the last 8 minutes of the game. They seemingly had no offensive sets or an idea of how to create a shot for another player. They didnt box out on the defensive end. They never sent a single guy to hit the offensive boards. They bailed out Mich st at least twice with bad fouls as the shot clock was running down. They missed FT's. If you want to blame the refs for them losing the game on a violation then you watched a completely different game than I did.

Michigan State wasnt much better though they did run a decent set offense which got them open looks and did dominate the defensive boards.

This situation has nothing to do with the play of NMS down the stretch, but rather if the roles were reversed the call WOULD NOT have been made. It was blatantly slobbing the knob of a "preferred" team. As for the level of play, my eyes are burning from watching this Cal-Ville game. These teams are just dreadful. I was semi-OK with expansion but with more games like this = no thanks.

ateamstupid 03-19-2010 09:41 PM

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This situation has nothing to do with the play of NMS down the stretch, but rather if the roles were reversed the call WOULD NOT have been made. It was blatantly slobbing the knob of a "preferred" team. As for the level of play, my eyes are burning from watching this Cal-Ville game. These teams are just dreadful. I was semi-OK with expansion but with more games like this = no thanks.

If Cal is dreadful, what does that make Louisville? Cal will beat Duke.

Cannon Shell 03-19-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
This situation has nothing to do with the play of NMS down the stretch, but rather if the roles were reversed the call WOULD NOT have been made. It was blatantly slobbing the knob of a "preferred" team. As for the level of play, my eyes are burning from watching this Cal-Ville game. These teams are just dreadful. I was semi-OK with expansion but with more games like this = no thanks.

It is a dead ball violation. The ref was right behind him and the guy stepped in the lane 3 seconds before the shot went up. Instead of calling out the refs for doing his job correctly perhaps the mental errors that new mexico State should have drawn more ire. You know like committing a lane violation in that situation? In an era where we stop the game to check replays it is hard to criticize the ref for making an easy call.

AeWingnut 03-19-2010 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
This situation has nothing to do with the play of NMS down the stretch, but rather if the roles were reversed the call WOULD NOT have been made. It was blatantly slobbing the knob of a "preferred" team. As for the level of play, my eyes are burning from watching this Cal-Ville game. These teams are just dreadful. I was semi-OK with expansion but with more games like this = no thanks.


ticky tac call to decide the game. (maybe)

the NIT has fewer teams/ games

yer welcome ?

:rolleyes:

AeWingnut 03-19-2010 09:45 PM

Deibler

philcski 03-19-2010 09:47 PM

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If Cal is dreadful, what does that make Louisville? Cal will beat Duke.

They both just suck. And I would be overjoyed if either of them beat Duke...

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It is a dead ball violation. The ref was right behind him and the guy stepped in the lane 3 seconds before the shot went up. Instead of calling out the refs for doing his job correctly perhaps the mental errors that new mexico State should have drawn more ire. You know like committing a lane violation in that situation? In an era where we stop the game to check replays it is hard to criticize the ref for making an easy call.

It is like traveling in the NBA, only called when "opportunistic". It's the first one I've seen called all year in probably 100-150 games I've watched. No question in my mind that it wouldn't have been called had the situation been reversed.

philcski 03-19-2010 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
It is a dead ball violation. The ref was right behind him and the guy stepped in the lane 3 seconds before the shot went up. Instead of calling out the refs for doing his job correctly perhaps the mental errors that new mexico State should have drawn more ire. You know like committing a lane violation in that situation? In an era where we stop the game to check replays it is hard to criticize the ref for making an easy call.

"Charles Simon is now friends with Peat Meadow Farm and PlatinumPlus Lexington."

I laughed :D

Cannon Shell 03-19-2010 09:53 PM

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They both just suck. And I would be overjoyed if either of them beat Duke...



It is like traveling in the NBA, only called when "opportunistic". It's the first one I've seen called all year in probably 100-150 games I've watched. No question in my mind that it wouldn't have been called had the situation been reversed.

Not really. Traveling is quite subjective. That was clearly a lane violation, it wasn't the wrong call. you may quibble with the timing but again the ref didnt push that guy into the lane, he did it all on his own. And like I said earlier what makes you think that new mexico state was going to get a better shot than they got? They played the last part of the game like the lane was forbidden territory despite Mich St being in serious foul trouble. No penetration and kick outs, no ball movement, nothing but forced, contested, off balance jumpers. Seriously go to youtube or wherebever you can watch the last 7 or 8 mins and tell me where they got one good shot.

Cannon Shell 03-19-2010 09:54 PM

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"Charles Simon is now friends with Peat Meadow Farm and PlatinumPlus Lexington."

I laughed :D

How could i turn that invite down?

philcski 03-19-2010 10:02 PM

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How could i turn that invite down?

Next business meeting there? :p

NMS missed 10 of 11 shots or something down the stretch. I'm not arguing their poor play. Just whether it would have been called the same way if the roles were reversed and it wouldn't have been.

Cannon Shell 03-19-2010 10:21 PM

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Next business meeting there? :p

NMS missed 10 of 11 shots or something down the stretch. I'm not arguing their poor play. Just whether it would have been called the same way if the roles were reversed and it wouldn't have been.

And it wasnt as though they were missing open looks. I didnt think the refs favored anyone in that game overall. Why would the ref decide to screw New Mexico state on that call? It just makes no sense especially since the violation was pretty clear. The refs are more worried about their own grading than who wins the game.

philcski 03-19-2010 11:15 PM

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12-7-1 overall +310 3-2 +25 yest.

friday games:
New Mexico St +13 165/150 W
Missouri +1 165/150 W
Wofford +10 110/100 W
Louisville -1 110/100 L
Syracuse -16 55/50 W
Utah St +3.5 110/100 L
UCSB +17 110/100 P
WV/Morgan under 138 220/200 W
Oakland/Pitt under 134 110/100 L
Minn/Xavier under 143 110/100 W
Minn/Xavier over 75 2nd half 55/50 L
Wofford/Wisc under 115.5 110/100 W

7-4-1 +465 today. Calling Louisville a loss even though it's not over, they're not winning this game.
19-11-2 +775 overall


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