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clyde 07-05-2010 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 665469)
Dew is still here? Doesn't he have some cute little blog on a horsey site? I miss him never admitting he is wrong. He is like a poor man's Dow Morris.

No!!..I am talking about Dough...I mean Dow.



I called him Dew as well..who did you think I meant?

stonegossard 07-05-2010 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 665473)
No!!..I am talking about Dough...I mean Dow.



I called him Dew as well..who did you think I meant?


Justin Doo.

clyde 07-05-2010 10:15 PM

Oh...I see where you would have BoothOperated..I mean messed up on that.



Mr. Don't.He's Just......In.

Don't ya know.

dalakhani 07-05-2010 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 665390)
Smart buy in the SPY puts. Friday's close was real bad. A lot of technical levels have been cracked at the end of the quarter. A lot of people thought that 1040 in the SP cash was big support. Smashed right through it. I think it comes down to what the bank stocks do, and they all seem to be ready to go into freefall. GS,BAC, and JPM are all breaking key support which could lead to disaster for the market. You also have Smooth Operator extremely bullish which should keep this sell off going strong. I think Morty is bearish as well which has to be good for the bears.

The thing about the bank stocks is that there is money to be made with the yield curve the way it is. You have rates at ridiculous levels right now and you still don't have to write down all of the commercial losses...yet. Its pretty hard for a bank NOT to make money right now at least the ones that are capitalized sufficiently and have their contingent liabilities under control.

I am with the bears and have been but I think that this is going to be a lot more drawn out with a few more pops along the way.

Coach Pants 07-05-2010 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 665465)
At any rate, Warren and I are lookin' 10, 15 years down the road.

Translation:


They're dead.

!!OOOOOOOOOO!!

clyde 07-05-2010 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 665500)
!!OOOOOOOOOO!!


!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qjo15n0mGU !!

stonegossard 07-06-2010 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 665498)
The thing about the bank stocks is that there is money to be made with the yield curve the way it is. You have rates at ridiculous levels right now and you still don't have to write down all of the commercial losses...yet. Its pretty hard for a bank NOT to make money right now at least the ones that are capitalized sufficiently and have their contingent liabilities under control.

I am with the bears and have been but I think that this is going to be a lot more drawn out with a few more pops along the way.


I wonder when the banks will have to face the music and face up to the commercial real estate losses. They have to be huge. The gov't will probably let them hold off until 2080 to deal with that disaster. If they do it now some of these bank stocks will be trading at 50% of the value they are at now.

You are right about the banks and making money though. They can borrow billions for free and buy treasuries (instead of lending to businesses to help the economy) and make a few percent risk free/doing nothing.

clyde 07-06-2010 12:50 PM

What!?

I have 10 large in margin calls?



Well sell something then..the other stuff.

To who? What's BoothOperator buying? ABC Co. and Widget Corp? Good---seell him 10 large worth of those.




Gosh, this is really so easy.

Smooth Operator 07-06-2010 02:38 PM

You can keep those two losers, Shorty.

Could use ten large worth of Pfizer or P & G, tho…

clyde 07-06-2010 02:43 PM

Oh take it easy.




What if I throw in a free smut creation?

Smooth Operator 07-10-2010 04:47 PM

Not a bad little week on The Street


Hope Morty and Pants made some good trades :D

clyde 07-10-2010 06:15 PM

God.





Hi,Boothy.....invest safely in this mess. Investing in CD's is a very good thing.

Coach Pants 07-10-2010 06:57 PM

I bought some Hall & Oates tickets and sold them on Ebay for a nice profit.

clyde 07-10-2010 07:50 PM

I have recently come back from the Goof..I mean Gulf.





Up here now...am selling tuna in oil and making gobs of moan-ay!!

Smooth Operator 07-11-2010 05:45 PM

Hope you're keeping those CD durations short, Morty

Rates are brutal right now…

clyde 07-11-2010 06:53 PM

Boothy...you kumquat.


CD's!!...long term....=;>

Smooth Operator 07-12-2010 01:30 PM

A young stud like you should be taking more risks with your money.

clyde 07-12-2010 01:38 PM

Oh boy.




Anyways...you are not following along at home very well!!

CEE-DEE's!!..not cd's.

I do invest in them long term.





And you can't.

Smooth Operator 07-12-2010 02:58 PM

Dee Tee Cee Dee's? lol


Seriously, Mort, you should be heavily in emerging markets.

clyde 07-12-2010 03:25 PM

COZY DOORYARDERS!!!!







What is the matter with you!!??

Dahoss 07-12-2010 04:35 PM

:baby::baby:

clyde 07-12-2010 05:16 PM

Hossy...keep Andy out of this.

Smooth Operator 07-12-2010 09:15 PM

Oh, my apologies, sir … investing in dooryarders is VERY high-risk


But good luck nonetheless :D

Smooth Operator 07-13-2010 09:20 AM

This summer could turn out to be one of those great buying opportunities.


Jus throwin' it out there…

MaTH716 07-13-2010 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 668513)
This summer could turn out to be one of those great buying opportunities.


Jus throwin' it out there…

Based on what?

It seems like the market has been stuck in this range between this 9700-10400 forever.
What's the positive news that going to make it breakthrough this level?

Smooth Operator 07-18-2010 06:03 PM

Weren't taking any prisoners on The Street last Friday

Rollercoaster ride sure to continue



No place for the faint-of-heart now




But time is on our side.

Economic expansion down the road



The relentless accumulation of shares continues... :cool:

randallscott35 07-18-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 670721)
Weren't taking any prisoners on The Street last Friday

Rollercoaster ride sure to continue



No place for the faint-of-heart now




But time is on our side.

Economic expansion down the road



The relentless accumulation of shares continues... :cool:

The Herbert Hoover of the board on so many levels.

Smooth Operator 07-18-2010 06:13 PM

Just keep those hedge trimmers sharp, randy

stonegossard 07-18-2010 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 670721)
Weren't taking any prisoners on The Street last Friday

Rollercoaster ride sure to continue



No place for the faint-of-heart now




But time is on our side.

Economic expansion down the road



The relentless accumulation of shares continues... :cool:


The banks are FINALLY admitting/unwinding some of the steep losses they have been hiding. Probably gonna rattle the market for the short term. Ya might be able to pick off BAC in the single digits again soon.

Market is basically range bound now. Probably will go test the 9600 area in The Dow. If that holds will probably head back to 10,400. If it does crack 9600 and stays below there could get real ugly.

The main problem is the banks. They are still in bad shape, which leads them to not lending to the consumer (without consumer spending economy isnt goin anywhere), and not lending to the small businessman. Until they open up and start acting like banks again, economy isnt goin anywhere.

dalakhani 07-18-2010 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 670918)
The banks are FINALLY admitting/unwinding some of the steep losses they have been hiding. Probably gonna rattle the market for the short term. Ya might be able to pick off BAC in the single digits again soon.

Market is basically range bound now. Probably will go test the 9600 area in The Dow. If that holds will probably head back to 10,400. If it does crack 9600 and stays below there could get real ugly.

The main problem is the banks. They are still in bad shape, which leads them to not lending to the consumer (without consumer spending economy isnt goin anywhere), and not lending to the small businessman. Until they open up and start acting like banks again, economy isnt goin anywhere.

The government never put any incentive for a bank to make business loans even when they were forcing tarp money down everyone's throat. If anything, they continue to hinder small business loans with excess capital requirements and loan loss reserves. Obama has tried to help but this congress really doesn't understand business (as if any do).

So your choices really are a.) Lend unsecured to small business and and risk not only default but also getting railed by the regulators.

or

B). Taking no risks and getting yield only on consumer stuff that is paying pretty nicely with the cost of funds at basically zero.

What would you do?

If the government wants to control banking, they have to facilitate some form of risk in order for there to be growth.

Smooth Operator 07-22-2010 08:47 PM

Wow … who let those bulls out of the pen today?


Still think it's a good time to be scooping up shares.

Planning to add that Vanguard Diversified Emerging Markets Index Fund (VEIEX) to the portfolio sometime in the near future, by the way.



Hate to say it … but I'm afraid those petrified by fear (like math and randy) may be falling even further behind…

Smooth Operator 08-02-2010 01:31 PM

Get those rally caps on, boys :D :$:

randallscott35 08-02-2010 01:36 PM

Thought you'd be chirping. Look at the correlation to dollar weakness and your rally. It is nominal only. But if it makes you feel better. Cheers

Smooth Operator 08-02-2010 03:18 PM

Not a bad little July in the books, randall

I see some are now predicting Dow 13k as early as next year

Wouldn't that be special :$:

Smooth Operator 08-06-2010 10:14 PM

Some rough economic news comes out this week ... yet that broad market index still manages to post a nice (1.8%) weekly gain.


Hmmmmmm



Hell, forget about what I told you guys on 7/13 … just listen to what the market said this week …




GET BACK IN …





NOW :$:

stonegossard 08-08-2010 01:03 PM

Problem is, this is starting to look like a lot of other summers when there is very low volume and the market rallies. Lets be serious, there is absolutely no fundamental reason why the mkt bounced so much in July/early Aug. Fridays payroll report showed that. The market is going up on no volume. In the past when this has happened, the volume has returned after labor day and they clobbered the market. I hope I am wrong and the dow goes to 15k, but when the real trading starts again in Sept, it might get very ugly. Low volume rallies are known to fail miserably.

clyde 08-08-2010 07:09 PM

You tell 'em,Petey.

randallscott35 08-11-2010 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 680026)
Problem is, this is starting to look like a lot of other summers when there is very low volume and the market rallies. Lets be serious, there is absolutely no fundamental reason why the mkt bounced so much in July/early Aug. Fridays payroll report showed that. The market is going up on no volume. In the past when this has happened, the volume has returned after labor day and they clobbered the market. I hope I am wrong and the dow goes to 15k, but when the real trading starts again in Sept, it might get very ugly. Low volume rallies are known to fail miserably.

:tro:

randallscott35 08-24-2010 01:28 PM

Keep catching that knife dumbasses.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

stonegossard 08-25-2010 08:16 AM

The Dow looks like it is approaching a key level this morning. Gonna open below 10k. There is a New Home sales number coming out this morning which will be critical...and if it is anything like yesterday's home sales numbers it will be very ugly.

Hoping Smooth Operator put a halt to his accumulation of stock the last few weeks. August is turning out to be very ugly. The market can only disregard what's really going on in the country for so long before it has to react. That's what you are seeing now. Plus the market rally in July was on little volume....that usually tends to be a bad side.


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