Exactly how I feel about him.
He says what he feels.
Which is entertaining

But he really does not put much thought into
anything he says. Shoots from the hip.

This means absolutely nothing.
West fits perfectly with the Cleveland group.
They are better when he and Mo Williams are on
the floor with Lebron. They move the ball around
much better. ANd play better D.

Maybe Lebron will stop the one on one crap
for extended periods. Pick his spots. Cleveland
is better than Orlando. Orlando is going to have to
continue to knock down those 3's to win this.

Lewis and Turkeyglue cannot continue to shoot this well
for an entire series.

There is evidence supporting the opposite is true.

ok Turkeyglue lover

So who wins this game LA or Denver?

Whoever scores the most points.

I'm not sure what makes you say that. Head to head Orlando's won 9 of the last 12 meetings. Yeah, yeah, regular season is different. But yesterday's game looked just like the regular season games. They can't matchup with anyone on that team. Basing winning a series on hoping a team's shooters start missing shots is not a good basis. Orlando did win 59 games this year.

You here Fu or is this going to be the most boring bet of all time cause you are never on during the games?

Did you watch any of Orlando's other playoff games?
They played by far their best game of any and still
barely won. Even with Lebron going into panic mode
trying to do everything and wearing himself out by the
4th quarter.

Hitting open jumpers is one thing. Hitting 3's from
the farm house is another. Cleveland will have to play
better defense. And they will.

Is it just me or do the Nuggets look like a much better team than the Lakers but look like deer in the headlight with the lead?

I'm rooting for the Nugs but they're going to find a way to lose.

Do you sleep anymore or have you hit Degen level 39, just playing non-stop?

BTW, I've been watching The Wire, you're a pretty good actor.

LOL I have no job. I resigned last Friday, I sleep till 10 every day, hardly leave the couch other than to get coffee or food or make a feeble attempt to pack my stuff up.

Who am I on the Wire?

I'm glad I was wrong.

Yes, they weren't playing Cleveland those games. They shot well all year against Cleveland. Cleveland played well too outside of defense yesterday...only 5 turnovers...48 percent shooting. That's pretty darn efficient. They certainly won't do that every game either. LeBron won't go 20 for 30 every game. Yeah, panic mode. ok. Cleveland cannot guard Howard with anyone on their roster. Varejao is an active player, but he can't guard a guy like Lewis.

McNulty

The Irish guy? I'm a greasy ginzo!

I thought Scavs was the one that beat cheeks with waitresses? :D

Nothing beats the Omar/Mouzone showdown in the alley.

The Wire was awesome.....you see them all on TV series everywhere except Mc Nutty....poor Jimmy just went off into the distance with his homeless buddy and didn't even get a guest shot on "Damages" with the other cast members!!

Jimmy be laying at the bottom of the river out there somewhere....

Omar is another one without any work after THeWire....no much call for the scar

Hell no.

Just so you might some day understand the difference, the "weak side" is the opposite of where the ball is on the floor. When you rotate off the ball from the opposite side, that is considered "weak side" help. When you leave your man to help cover the post regardless of what side of the floor the ball or your "assignment" is on, thats called "doubling".

I will ask you questions on this next week for a gold star.:)

So are you saying you know more about the sport than either? Please. Face it...those guys have forgotten more than you will ever know about the sport but yet you are still clinging to this hopelessly.

When you put up the white flags, i took you at your word.

They look like a better team to me so far. Not much better but better.

Carmello is taking his game to another level.

Fisher plays 27 minutes and scores 3 pt...he sucks!

I know but you have a lot of the same mannerisms.

In the Utah series
Brown was the first guard off the bench in the first four games. Vujacic was second. They switched for the last game. Farmar didn't even get into the last three games. Minutes played:

Series average
Brown-about 17
Vujacic-about 15
Farmar-under 2

In the Houston series
In the first game, Vujacic was the first guard off the bench. Played almost 14 minutes. Brown was second and played 12 1/2. Farmar played just under three. Game two, Farmar was first off the bench and played nearly 18. Game three when Fisher was suspended, Farmar started and went almost 33 minutes. Farmar was a starter in one game and first off the bench in five others.

Series average
Farmar-about 17
Brown-about 14
Vujacic-about 14

So far in the Denver series
Game one, Vujacic was first off the bench
V-13.07
F-9.22
B-6.09

Game two, Brown was first off the bench
B-16.46
F-6.14
V-5.35

What I'm getting at is that Phil has no clue what he's doing. He messes with guys so much that they don't know if they are coming or going. Sure, you want to say that it's good that he does it that way because it keeps all the guys on their toes and ready at all times because you don't know when you will get your number called. But that's not how it really works. You'd like it to since they are professionals but it doesn't. Guys like to know their roles. A guy like Farmar doesn't know from game to game if he's going to play 20 minutes or won't get off the bench. Brown barely gets in the game in the first one and gets almost 17 minutes the next. And you have to feel for Bynum. He doesn't know whether he's coming or going. From night to night, he doesn't know if he's going to start or come off the bench. Doesn't know if he'll get 20-25 minutes or 10-12. Doesn't know if he'll play in the second half of a game or not. The Lakers are as successful as they are because of Kobe Bryant. Plain and simple. Mariano Rivera (that's my name for Jackson) doesn't help things. He throws out weird combinations, doesn't have a regular rotation, doesn't do things to control the momentum of games. He just hopes that Kobe will bail him out night after night and make him look like a genius.

Well actually that is not true but I honestly dont have the time to explain defensive rotations nor does anyone really want to hear it anyway. You in your own defensive posture wouldn't really listen anyway.

People who are on TV are paid to entertain. They are paid to make the game enjoyable to those like you who actually pay attention to them. Those who understand the game and have regular conversations with others who also understand the game take all that is said on tv with a grain of salt. You refuse to understand that our disagreement has virtually nothing to do with the context of defense and everything to do with YOUR stubborn refusal to admit that LeBron James WAS matched up with an NBA playoff finals PG despite your assertions that he neither did or could. What Doug Collins, Charles Barkley or John Wooden say is meaningless in the context of your contention. You dont have to be a genius to see that what you said was simply wrong. He guarded the PG. I'm sure he will again.

Carmellos game is pretty much the same as it has always been. He is just actually putting some effort in on the defensive end for a change

I guess the fact that he is scoring more and shooting a better percentage is just an illusion.

You just like to disagree with me. I like that about you.:)

[quote=Cannon Shell] LeBron James WAS matched up with an NBA playoff finals PG QUOTE]

LOL. You get funnier as you continue to reach. Its almost..kind of cute.

Rafer Alson is now a "NBA playoff finals" PG. LOL Do we have to go over that dignified list? Do you realize that Derek fisher, a man you called a BUM, is a NBA champion PG?

Does that change the fact that houston, a playoff team, gave alston away midseason for a backup? Alston is one of the worst pg's in the NBA.

Regardless, what you fail to understand is that it wasnt about position and lebron wasnt GUARDING him. Anything outside of that is an obtuse observation and i know you are not obtuse...just stubborn.:)

Oh Chuck, you had time to post two more posts and three more paragraphs but you didnt which tells me you really didnt have anything concrete to say. Do your google searches about defense and come back to me. It will prepare you for the next lesson...half court traps.

I did some research. To borrow your line "do you actually watch the games" Lets check out Carmello's career playoffs stats

Yr Team G GS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF REB AST STL BLK TO PF pts

Career -- 34 34 38.0 0.427 0.400 0.803 2.6 4.6 7.2 2.8 1.1 0.3 2.91 3.60 23.4
This YR 11 11 38.2 0.500 0.488 0.831 1.7 4.6 6.4 4.3 1.8 0.8 2.09 3.80 28.1

08-09 66 66 34.5 0.443 0.371 0.793 1.6 5.2 6.8 3.4 1.1 0.4 3.02 3.00 22.8


How about against LA lakers?
G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF REB APG SPG BPG PPG
08-09 4 4 35.3 .328 .200 .733 1.8 6.0 7.8 4.0 1.2 0.5 14.5

Playoffs 2 2 41 .734 .363 .772 3.5 4.0 7.5 4.0 0.5 1.0 36.5

LA owned him this year during the season. Things are different in the playoffs.






What do you think Chuck? Still just defense?:) What do you say my man?

LeBron James does guard point guards at times dalakhani. I am not going to say he does it well or anything. IN the NBA finals two years ago, when Tony Parker absolutely torched them every game. LeBron would actually guard Tony Parker at times. Part of this had to do with Larry Hughes' injury that actually sidelined him by the end of the series, and they were left with Eric Snow and Daniel Gibson. But I know he guarded Parker at times that series in the NBA finals. Whether it was a one man zone two years ago I'm not sure of and whether he did it well, I doubt as Parker was finals MVP so doubtful and he didn't do it the whole game...but if you look at film for that entire series, I can guarantee you he guarded Parker at times by plan.

Phil does not have a consistent performer at guard besides
Kobe. And he has no point. Kobe is playing 1,2, and 3. And getting
beat up by Mellow. The Lakers would not have a chance
in this series without Kobe and Gasol. These are the only consistent
performers they have. Bynum is cannot stay with this up tempo game
the Lakers are playing. Ariza is playing fairly well, but he is playing
more at Kobe's position.

Lucky for the Lakers the Nuggets still have the flat headed
Nene and Martin.

In a desperate situation with no one else available in a one sided series, they may have tried it. Hell, they were getting killed so i would have tried to. That was not the case the other night and i hope they do the same thing tonight. I invite you to watch the tape from game 1 and give honest feedback as to whether or not anyone was being "guarded".

The original contention was that "lebron can cover 5 positions" which is simply not true as no one was being "guarded" the other night. Barkley and Collins agree with me but chuck knows more than them about basketball because they are only entertainers and not basketball people.:)

What did Trevor Ariza do last night anyway?

he was like 12 for 29 last night.

This is laughable...