Read the article I just posted. Striaght from the source. Heartbreaking. "We decided, though, that this was the type of filly we'd wanted all our lives," Vella said. "We loved her, and we wanted to race her and breed her. Who knows? She might have even gone to Lost in the Fog, since he was probably heading to stud in Kentucky.

Sounds like a big leap to blame Belmont for spraying something. Coincidence? Yes.

How's the lawsuit going? I assume there is one.

Sovereign Award winner. She was really good.

I saw Hovdey's article you posted after I saw the internet post, which is why I deleted my post, but I still think it is incredibly irresponsible for Aleo to make the claim he did.

He was rightfully upset.

Aleo flat out admits the spray was a rumor. However, the connection between these two horses is undeniable.

Actually they might...but why does it only cause cancer in good horses and if something was sprayed why only these 2 stalls and why no other incidents? You would have to believe that other barns would have been sprayed with the same substance and yet there are no reports of an unusual number of cancer deaths at Belmont.

"But with people and with cats I'm told there is some association with a type of virus"

that is taken from the article above, and imo is where the research needs to focus, rather than something sprayed in the barn area.

exactly

Csi: Belmont

She ran one big race setting a moderate pace while loose on the lead.....and more than a few poor races. Let's not get carried away because she died an unfortunate death.

Same reason as when one heavy smoker twin brother dies at 60 and the other heavy smoker twin is still going strong at 85?

Doesn't always make sense....

people will make a lot of statements when they are emotional, that otherwise would never make the light of day.

it also explains why some take it so personally when a horse doesn't make a list of 25 in 20 years....

None of it makes sense

I completely agree......


....you should see the hole I put in my wall when I didn't see Dynever on anyone's list.

!!OOOOOOOOOO!!

He is on my Saudi marathon horse list along with Passing Ships

Aleo called it a rumor, so I wouldn't be quick to say he was necessarily placing any blame.

As far as spraying for rats, Santa Anita hires out pest control companies that spray around the barn area and set baited traps all over the place.

In general, I wouldn't count on racetrack management to display or consider any horsemanship when making those sorts of decisions, especially as far as the maintenance crew is concerned.

I remember her being interesting at long odds in the Juvy Fillies. Ran a pretty even 5th or 6th.

They're pretty f*ckin stupid if they would do that...

I laughed

Sad but true

I'm not.

... and I'm not saying she was the greatest filly ever, but she was very good.

As an aside, please refer to Dynever as Ittsak.:D

Yeah, as soon as I heard Bataglia's voice I clicked off.

That was cruel, Chuck, very cruel.

See post 297, last sentence

Yes... even the great ones have to step aside though. He has done enough :D

It was a classic call. He even slipped a "gaaaaiiinnnnniiiiinnnngggg ggggrrroooouuunnnddddd" as Spend a Buck drew away.

I might as well spray my office tomorrow with rat poison then. Same difference, right?

The ignorance of management in this game NEVER ceases to amaze me.

This is your winner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW9AG9HSkgU

not necessarily. altho it would be a stretch of the imagination to think two horses would come down with the same type cancer at the same time, we all know that bizarre coincidences occur. it's what keeps conspiracy theorists in business.
there is a very rare brain disease...two friends contracted it and died within weeks. it's not contagious, and no one else in either family got it. bizarre, but unconnected. i remember reading about it.

in a way, it's almost like when you buy something you think is rare--and then all of a sudden, you see or hear about it seemingly everywhere...

Where is Jack Klugman when we need him?

There was a great Quincy episode involving a dead race horse.

Great lines:

- "I have to see a man about a horse. A dead horse."

- "I don't think this horse died of natural causes."

I'm pretty sure Harry Aleo probably watched Quincy.

There's absolutely nothing even close to proof that she was " very good. "

lol

first bruised knuckles, now bruised ear drums. not your night at all!

Horse Racing may be the only sport in the world where slight variations in wording can create such a argument. It seems to call a horse "great" in this sport, he/she must be an all-time superstar.

Compared to the average filly, she was more than very good. Compared to all time greats, she was well below average. Its just a matter of perspective.

I want to get a Quincy style houseboat

As it should.

Okay.

I liked her in the Ontario Debutante and in the Mazarine BC.

I'll leave it at that.

Maybe you need to check out KRIM's "beautiful relaxing video" or something. :p

You're forgetting how truly awful that field was. That phony Adieu was 2nd choice at 4-1 or something... I thought Folklore was a layup (and yes... that was my only winner that day)

Isnt that the meaning of the word?

So now we compare good horses to average horses to establish their quality?