you first...skank

If DrugS didn't already have a great quote that should replace it.

I knew that going into it...I still want that 90 minutes back.

i found it just slightly tolerable. just moreso than "the other sister" and "the royal tenenbaums"

Matter of fact, I believe I may be the only person ever to walk out of the latter. Everyone else seems to love it, I left halfway through I was so mortified by how bad it was.

I guess you're not a fan of Salinger either.

didn't mind him. not as rabid a fan as some -- i'm not going to go down in flames with him like most high school juniors getting their first taste, no.

i find him more tolerable than that film, however -- but still not my type of literature.

Well, I didn't read him until I was 40, but as far as High School juniors....whatever.

" The Royal Tannenbaums " is very much Nine Stories and Franny and Zooey.

sorry, i wasn't trying to make a dig with the high school juniors comment -- i just remember very well being one and watching everyone fall in love with salinger when they read "catcher.." and thought they had sort of discovered the key to misfit life through his characters -- and then hearing from my new english teacher friend how that phenomenon was not exclusive to my class in high school. they generally have the most excitement and passion for him, even though they generally don't understand the big picture of his works, and that commentaries are not endorsements per se.

i've had the RT conversation with literally dozens of people in the last few years, all who are appalled that i didn't like it. they then immediately move to show me that i didn't LIKE it because i didn't UNDERSTAND it, which is not quite true. it's more that understanding it and finding it bland are not mutually exclusive ideas.

Agree with you on Lakeway... prior to her illness, she was one hell of a nice horse.

And then she ran into Heavenly Prize in the Alabama....

I loved Heavenly Prize...it's nice to think she was that much better (7 lths) than Lakeway.... but something had to be hindering Lakeway that day.

And then they both ran into Inside Information on a muddy BEL track.....

One was 2nd beaten 13 1/2 lengths...the other 3rd beaten 15 3/4 lengths.

While "the most consistantly good mare in the last 30 years" was 5th beaten 17 3/4 lengths.....and Mariah's Storm was also left in the wake as well.

I guess she was consistently significantly worse than the better members of her generation.

Agreed. She was laid up after that race, I think, and never the same.

Plus 1 1/4 was probably not her best game. When she was good, though, she was exceptional.

Well for one thing that was the last summer where Lasix wasn't legal!!
And Jones never won a stakes race at the Spa, just like many other Cali trainers back in those days where the lack of Lasix and "whatever else" left their horses "just not the same" as they were in Cali.

In my opinion, she was the best filly to lose 20 or more horse races in her career, that raced during the 90's. I'll certainly give her that.

Just edging out Shoop....once again.

I'm with you, I actually hated the Royal Tenenbaums. And I normally love Wes Anderson.

As for the Other Sister, well, I'm just impressed to see you work that one into any conversation.

Look at what she did at Belmont though, earlier in the year...

The Other Sister? Isn't that loosely based on DrugS's life...with Juliette Lewis playing DrugS?