He also never won on Whitney Day...or any day at Saratoga. He did, however, run third once in the first race, I think, on the turf one day.

I was getting worried there. I expected the next thing from you to be that you saw a bootleg copy of " Candy ".

****, my memory is shot then. i do remember the race being on turf.

Tell me the year, I'll tell you the winner of the Whitney.

1993-Brunswick
1994-Colonial Affair
1995- Unaccounted For

Those would be the years that Cigar was racing.

My guess is 1994, he ran on the grass and lost before switching to dirt and starting that incredible run.

Kelso, so lick me.

I only knew that because I knew kelso won three times, one year apart, in '61, '63, and '65.

This is the greatest feature of pedigreequery.com - 1st-3rd in any race you want and final time.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.p...ld=view&id=583

For good measure I checked his PP's, he didn't even run on Whitney Day. i got my license that day, i was right about that, August 1st, 1994. He ran the next Saturday... and finished 3rd on the turf. The SPAC concert was August 2nd, 1994. God was i a stupid kid back then. My mother would have maimed me if she had known i had driven all the way to Saratoga and back, i think i told her we were going camping in the finger lakes!

moral of the story: never, EVER, debate Blackthroatedwind about Saratoga results. well done my man.

Really? I have gone to that site 1000 times, but never knew that.
If he had asked for say like '62, I woulda said I have no idea.

i didn't know that either! you da best sightseek! :) Let me know when you and S are up to coming down to the city next.

Sure makes it easy to pick out the females too.

Seek I'm on there now, and I'm not seeing how you get this info. Could you give us the walkthrough?

the question above applies to you too, sir...

You can do cool stuff too like search for stakes where the winner's sire was Buckpasser.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.p...e&h=buckpasser

One can learn some very useful things playing late night racing trivia on the old TT's forum. :D

Probably won't be down there again until the Wood...you'll be delighted to know I've been working up the ladder on the Degen Levels in the meantime.

If the Gotham comes up interesting enough then it would be a possibility. Otherwise the Wood.

Sure, go to the home page, select Stakes Races in the Reports menu, in search for races where the name " " select race name, tab to the next blank and type in the name of the stakes race. Research on! :D