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eurobounce 09-28-2006 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
So lemme get this straight, do you actually speak to Aidan O'Brien?
My guess is that it goes more like this.
The breeders call out of interest, to the guy who owes them nothing since they only bred the horse, they don't own it or have any influence in even the slightest way, and O Brien says to be polite, perhaps this. The breeders tell a few folks, including your friend, what the speculative plans are. your friend tells you.
I guess this is the definition of an insider at Ballydoyle.

Or do you actually speak to O'Brien?

I think you are correct on this one.

georgewashington 09-28-2006 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
So lemme get this straight, do you actually speak to Aidan O'Brien?
My guess is that it goes more like this.
The breeders call out of interest, to the guy who owes them nothing since they only bred the horse, they don't own it or have any influence in even the slightest way, and O Brien says to be polite, perhaps this. The breeders tell a few folks, including your friend, what the speculative plans are. your friend tells you.
I guess this is the definition of an insider at Ballydoyle.

Or do you actually speak to O'Brien?

Not AO. Tim Corballis. You really have no idea how this business works.

oracle80 09-28-2006 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I would say you are pretty close to being dead on.

Yeah I think I am.
Noone comes here representing themselves as an insider. I mean, what kind of label is that anyway?
And people who do have inside information on certain events that connections are considering or certain events that are happening, will not post them here. They know better than to take information that is given to them in confidence and repeat it on a message board before it has been made public.
Sure, I gave Steve a few scoops, but only after getting the permission of the people who gave me the info to call a friend in journalism.
No insider wants to be referred to as such, nor does he or she care.
And no insider is gonna post info that has not been cleared by the source to be broadcast in public, lest they lose that privilege and source.

oracle80 09-28-2006 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by georgewashington
No. Tim Corballis.

Congrats!!!
I was actually in the winners circle photo of Hawk Wings Breeders Cup win at Arlington. I got invited by a friend of Demi's. Does that make me an insider?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oracle80 09-28-2006 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by georgewashington
Not AO. Tim Corballis. You really have no idea how this business works.

Oh I have no idea how the business works? That may be the funniest thing you ever said here.
Well thats swell. I'm so impressed I better go back to watch the end of Grey's Anatomy and calm down.

georgewashington 09-28-2006 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I think little brother might be posting on big brothers name tonight.

No. I am in NY for a wedding. Little brother is at the library. I guess people don't like it when they get corrected when posting things they know nothing about.

georgewashington 09-28-2006 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Congrats!!!
I was actually in the winners circle photo of Hawk Wings Breeders Cup win at Arlington. I got invited by a friend of Demi's. Does that make me an insider?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stick to buying horses off the track. Being in a winners circle photo means nothing and you know that. Who is your friend that knows Dr. O'Byrne? I actually saw Hawk Wings first foal last year at Bryanstown House. I am very curious who you would know that is friends with Dr. O'Byrne. Your story sounds pretty unlikely.

georgewashington 09-28-2006 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
What exactly did you correct anyone on?

The original poster said he knew George Washington was coming for the BC Mile. It is possible, but no decision has been made. His post was incorrect. I guess people can post anything on these boards and nobody questions them. I was amused by his 74% number, proving my point.

georgewashington 09-28-2006 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Yeah I think I am.
Noone comes here representing themselves as an insider. I mean, what kind of label is that anyway?
And people who do have inside information on certain events that connections are considering or certain events that are happening, will not post them here. They know better than to take information that is given to them in confidence and repeat it on a message board before it has been made public.
Sure, I gave Steve a few scoops, but only after getting the permission of the people who gave me the info to call a friend in journalism.
No insider wants to be referred to as such, nor does he or she care.
And no insider is gonna post info that has not been cleared by the source to be broadcast in public, lest they lose that privilege and source.

Maybe the original poster should take your advice. Then again, it seems you have zero accountability on these boards. Say whatever you want, nobody in the business cares about your opinion. In fact, with the exception of a few NY people, most have never heard of you. You might want to rethink how close you are with Seth too. I am not sure he thinks of you as a friend.

eurobounce 09-28-2006 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by georgewashington
The original poster said he knew George Washington was coming for the BC Mile. It is possible, but no decision has been made. His post was incorrect. I guess people can post anything on these boards and nobody questions them. I was amused by his 74% number, proving my point.

I dont believe the orginal poster - which is me - ever said GW is 100% for the Mile. I think the original poster - which is me - said words like IT APPEARS and APPARENTLY--now if those two words mean 100% then I need a new dictionary. Here is the original post.

Well it appears that the BC Mile is now over. I believe GW is going to go in the mile. He will destroy this field with great ease. What is great about this move is that it may set-up a showdown between Gorella and Ouija Board in the Filly and Mare Turf. Boy what a great race that is going to be. I would lean towards OB because of who she has been up against, but Gorella is where my heart is. But keep in mind that they both have to catch Wait A While--remember Intercontinental last year. Maybe we will see a repeat performace by Wait A While.

georgewashington 09-28-2006 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
You are not as amusing as baby bro, but pretty close. I sure do hope you two keep giving us all these "insider tips" I for one can't wait, and I'm sure most on here are as anxious as I.

I would love to see the inside information I posted. Please show me. Nothing I posted hasn't already been said in public. I can't help it if you guys do not read papers, watch television or listen to radio outside the US. It is funny how you guys post about horses overseas without paying any attention to what goes on over there. When you have to have a separate International section on your board, you pretty much are admitting you do not care.

georgewashington 09-28-2006 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
I dont believe the orginal poster - which is me - ever said GW is 100% for the Mile. I think the original poster - which is me - said words like IT APPEARS and APPARENTLY--now if those two words mean 100% then I need a new dictionary. Here is the original post.

Well it appears that the BC Mile is now over. I believe GW is going to go in the mile. He will destroy this field with great ease. What is great about this move is that it may set-up a showdown between Gorella and Ouija Board in the Filly and Mare Turf. Boy what a great race that is going to be. I would lean towards OB because of who she has been up against, but Gorella is where my heart is. But keep in mind that they both have to catch Wait A While--remember Intercontinental last year. Maybe we will see a repeat performace by Wait A While.

You are making your beliefs based on what? Pulling them out of the air? Let me also tell you no decision has been made on Oujia Board. The softness of the BC Turf has them interested. Lastly, Gorella is still possible for the mile.

ArlJim78 09-28-2006 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by georgewashington
The original poster said he knew George Washington was coming for the BC Mile. It is possible, but no decision has been made. His post was incorrect. I guess people can post anything on these boards and nobody questions them. I was amused by his 74% number, proving my point.

I'm looking for the original poster who said he "knew" GW was coming.

The original poster on this thread said "I believe" that GW is coming. That was not an incorrect post. AO himself said on Saturday after the race that the mile was very likely.

It looks to me like you may be the one just throwing up anything.

georgewashington 09-28-2006 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I'm looking for the original poster who said he "knew" GW was coming.

The original poster on this thread said "I believe" that GW is coming. That was not an incorrect post. AO himself said on Saturday after the race that the mile was very likely.

It looks to me like you may be the one just throwing up anything.

Sorry. I am used to reading a board where people have to stick to facts. Not pull things out of the air. This is the "National Enquirer" of horse racing message boards. Now I see why my brother posts here.

blackthroatedwind 09-28-2006 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by georgewashington
Sorry. I am used to reading a board where people have to stick to facts. Not pull things out of the air. This is the "National Enquirer" of horse racing message boards. Now I see why my brother posts here.

" Facts " are a pretty elusive thing in horse racing in general.

You should get to know some of the people here before insulting them.

Or not.


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