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Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 891120)
Like Trickle Down Economics?

no, more like confiscation of wealth and having an elitist kingmaker decide who gets what.

jms62 09-20-2012 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891123)
no, more like confiscation of wealth and having an elitist kingmaker decide who gets what.

Confistication of wealth. Plueeze. Do you just Puke up the Republicrip pablum without any investigation into reality whatsoever.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88I0WA20120919

Dahoss 09-20-2012 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891110)
So you are calling people temporarily out of work but who are looking for work freeloaders??? I never called those people freeloaders, again some projecting from you. The real Dahoss is being exposed.

No...I didn't say that. I said only a complete idiot in denial would think that none of the people currently on unemployment in the states I mentioned are not taking advantage of the system. Which is what you are saying.

Your opinion shows a total lack of awareness for the world outside of your (whatever character you are playing today) bubble.

Dahoss 09-20-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 891126)
Do you just Puke up the Republicrip pablum without any investigation into reality whatsoever.

Yes, he does.

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 891126)
Confistication of wealth. Plueeze. Do you just Puke up the Republicrip pablum without any investigation into reality whatsoever.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88I0WA20120919

Yeah JMS big government really works, it is doing wonders in Europe and here.

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 891128)
No...I didn't say that. I said only a complete idiot in denial would think that none of the people currently on unemployment in the states I mentioned are not taking advantage of the system. Which is what you are saying.

Your opinion shows a total lack of awareness for the world outside of your (whatever character you are playing today) bubble.

I am saying what?????? Please clarify.

by the what, why the name calling, can't you discuss an issue without resorting to name calling?

Address the my question, which you seem to be avoiding, did you purposely misuse the unemployment number or did you not know who it represents?

jms62 09-20-2012 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891136)
Yeah JMS big government really works, it is doing wonders in Europe and here.

Please give us instances of our government confisticating wealth not just the Tea-Bagger scare tactics. We are near an ALL TIME LOW in Tax Revenue.

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 891139)
Please give us instances of our government confisticating wealth not just the Tea-Bagger scare tactics. We are near an ALL TIME LOW in Tax Revenue.

Are you aware that at some point the higher the tax rate, the lower the revenues? Even Obama knows this, but he thinks it "fairer" to take from the producers of this country and redistribute it to others as he sees fit.

Have you taken a look at the economy? Do you think that might also have something to do with revenues?

Are you denying that we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world?

And please don't give us your OWS scare tactics.

jms62 09-20-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891143)
Are you aware that at some point the higher the tax rate, the lower the revenues? Even Obama knows this, but he thinks it "fairer" to take from the producers of this country and redistribute it to others as he sees fit.
Have you taken a look at the economy? Do you think that might also have something to do with revenues?

Are you denying that we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world?

And please don't give us your OWS scare tactics.

Everything you spout is clearly from the Tea-Bagger manifesto. Scare tactics and half truths. You really don't have an original thought in your head. You make accusations without anything to back it up. And then you accuse me of using OWS scare tactics.. Really are you so fuking juvenile that you play the I know you are but what am I game. And you are a fuking Lawyer??? OY FUKING VEY...

Rudeboyelvis 09-20-2012 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891143)
Are you aware that at some point the higher the tax rate, the lower the revenues? Even Obama knows this, but he thinks it "fairer" to take from the producers of this country and redistribute it to others as he sees fit.

Have you taken a look at the economy? Do you think that might also have something to do with revenues?

Are you denying that we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world?

And please don't give us your OWS scare tactics.

This is nothing more than regurgitated, Koch Brothers funded, Teabagger rhetoric and is completely unsubstantiated.

What happened to tax revenues when Clinton raised taxes? Hmmm?

That absolute fact of the matter is that the two are mutually exclusive of each other no matter how much the far right and the far left want to piss on each other over it, and anyone with an open mind sees that.

There is absolutely no proof that by giving away money to the ultra-wealthy in the form of even lower tax rates, with some insipid hope that they might create a job with that money (which we gave them) has ever worked, if fact the opposite occurs.

You're ideology is about as far from Libertarian as Riot's is.

Dahoss 09-20-2012 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891137)
I am saying what?????? Please clarify.

by the what, why the name calling, can't you discuss an issue without resorting to name calling?

Address the my question, which you seem to be avoiding, did you purposely misuse the unemployment number or did you not know who it represents?

I already answered your question and pointed out to you why your assumptions were faulty.

You can keep deflecting all you want, but you've got no one fooled and you never have.

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 891145)
Everything you spout is clearly from the Tea-Bagger manifesto. Scare tactics and half truths. You really don't have an original thought in your head. You make accusations without anything to back it up. And then you accuse me of using OWS scare tactics.. Really are you so fuking juvenile that you play the I know you are but what am I game. And you are a fuking Lawyer??? OY FUKING VEY...

Really JMS, like what? please explain. What accusations have I made without backing them up? Seems like you are using words like teabagger tactics and half-truths without providing a shred of evidence to back it up. Just like your pal Dahoss, you are projecting.

I still haven't heard one intelligent argument come from your posts, seems like I will be waiting a long time.

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 891147)
This is nothing more than regurgitated, Koch Brothers funded, Teabagger rhetoric and is completely unsubstantiated.

What happened to tax revenues when Clinton raised taxes? Hmmm?

That absolute fact of the matter is that the two are mutually exclusive of each other no matter how much the far right and the far left want to piss on each other over it, and anyone with an open mind sees that.

There is absolutely no proof that by giving away money to the ultra-wealthy in the form of even lower tax rates, with some insipid hope that they might create a job with that money (which we gave them) has ever worked, if fact the opposite occurs.

You're ideology is about as far from Libertarian as Riot's is.

You are counting the fake internet economy bubble that Clinton was lucky enough to not have it burst after he left office? The little guys were the one left holding the bag while people like Mark Cuban own sports teams.

There is no proof that raising taxers produces higher revenue (in fact the opposite occurs) or helps the poor. There is no proof that raising taxes on the producers of the economy and having redistributed by a bunch of elitist, clueless jackasses who are putting their theories to use that they learned in the fake world of academia works.

You are calling yourself a libertarian with this post??????

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 891149)
I already answered your question and pointed out to you why your assumptions were faulty.

You can keep deflecting all you want, but you've got no one fooled and you never have.

No you never answered my question, you had no idea what the unemployment rate represents.

Also, you are just making stuff up to cover your ass. I never said unemployed people were freeloaders.

jms62 09-20-2012 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891151)
Really JMS, like what? please explain. What accusations have I made without backing them up? Seems like you are using words like teabagger tactics and half-truths without providing a shred of evidence to back it up. Just like your pal Dahoss, you are projecting.

I still haven't heard one intelligent argument come from your posts, seems like I will be waiting a long time.

No you never insult or get personal.. LOL...

jms62 09-20-2012 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891152)
You are counting the fake internet economy bubble that Clinton was lucky enough to not have it burst after he left office? The little guys were the one left holding the bag while people like Mark Cuban own sports teams.

There is no proof that raising taxers produces higher revenue (in fact the opposite occurs) or helps the poor. There is no proof that raising taxes on the producers of the economy and having redistributed by a bunch of elitist, clueless jackasses who are putting their theories to use that they learned in the fake world of academia works.

You are calling yourself a libertarian with this post??????

Again tax revenues at the lowest rate EVER WHILE Corporations are at their MOST PROFITABLE EVER.. So how has OBAMA raised peoples taxes?

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 891159)
Again tax revenues at the lowest rate EVER WHILE Corporations are at their MOST PROFITABLE EVER.. So how has OBAMA raised peoples taxes?

Your joking with me right? Why doesn't GE pay taxes? Because they bribe corrupt politicians like Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and the rest of your heroes. I am all for closing up tax loopholes.

By the way, who do I insult? If you don't insult me, I don't insult you, but if you come at me personally, then I will do the same.

dellinger63 09-20-2012 10:27 AM

Let's raise taxes on the wealthy, build more mosques in Egypt, and buy more solar panels from China. That will improve the economy. :wf

Let's remain with our heads in the sand and our collective a$$es in air pretending planned terror attacks are spontaneous despite occurring on 9/11.

Coach Pants 09-20-2012 10:28 AM

so now the thread is about taxes?

Pardon me while I go piss in the wind for a moment.

We were beyond taxes fixing the issue back in 2002. All of the decisions were made by then and there is not a god damn thing you or I can do about it.

So feel free to pay more taxes if you'd like. Remember to be a good slave and pay extra to the Federal Reserve.

YOU ARE BEING NAIVE, FUC.KERS. WE'RE GOING OFF THAT FISCAL CLIFF WHETHER THEY TAKE ALL YOUR GOD-DAMNED MONEY AND GIVE IT TO EVERY MEXICAN ON EARTH.

pointman 09-20-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 891149)
I already answered your question and pointed out to you why your assumptions were faulty.

You can keep deflecting all you want, but you've got no one fooled and you never have.

Seems to me that your agenda here has nothing to do with debating politics. You already know PD is not me and I find it hard to believe that you really think I could keep up the charade that you have manufactured here. It also seems to me that you are trying to bait PD on a trivial point because you don't like the views. If you don't like his views on politics, why don't you debate him instead of insulting him?


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