Originally Posted by fpsoxfan (Post 733182)

Its not whether I agree or disagree with him, it's his manner. Look at Guats post above, that describes pretty much how I feel. Not to mention the fact that he should be banned for his rather vicious attacks on Vic.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 733186)

The chances of Rare Bog being 18 years old are about as good as me riding Monsignor in the 3rd at Aqueduct on Wednesday.

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 733188)

Banned? For what? People get shredded like that daily on here and they don't get banned.

Guat's post is ridiculous. Vic loves the attention. It's why he posts as VJ Stauffer.

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 733188)

Banned? For what? People get shredded like that daily on here and they don't get banned.

Guat's post is ridiculous. Vic loves the attention. It's why he posts as VJ Stauffer.

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan (Post 733198)

And that doesn't really make it right. Especially when he shows up out of the blue with his obnoxious posts. Hey, if you like the guy, that's fine. I don't. He and Rock Hard Ten should have a cage match.

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 733205)

I guess my issue is the only reason people seem to care is because it's directed at Vic. If Rare Bog was saying the same things to Rock Tard you wouldn't be calling to have him banned.

It's just sort of funny to me. Like Vic is royalty because he takes time out to rub elbows with us peons.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 733186)

The chances of Rare Bog being 18 years old are about as good as me riding Monsignor in the 3rd at Aqueduct on Wednesday.

Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 733214)

You all need to leave stonegossard alone, he is on serious roll....... ah.....ah mean rare bog.......??????? Wait a minute!!!!!!!! I just had a moment of clarity.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 733212)

By far the most hilarious part of this thread has been the amount of people who are outraged (as Dahoss has pointed out) that someone would dare to be rude to Vic. He's a big boy and I'm sure knows that if he posts here there's always a possibility that some of the feedback will not be positive. It has been completely civil in this thread and there's still a chance I can convince Steve to let Clyde back into the padlock, which will really kick it up a notch.

There are a multitude of viewpoints on a variety of subjects on this board. Are we all going to ever agree? Absolutely not, that would make things very boring.

Originally Posted by gaut10 (Post 733218)

several of the posts, both in opposition to bog and support, are nothing more than emotional arguments with no facts or logic. that's my issue.

Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 733214)

You all need to leave stonegossard alone, he is on serious roll....... ah.....ah mean rare bog.......??????? Wait a minute!!!!!!!! I just had a moment of clarity.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 733217)

No, you are 100% wrong. Dead wrong.

Originally Posted by Rare Bog (Post 733067)

Let me just clarify who I am, why I showed up after 7 months, and what I am all about.

I believe the following.

1. The game revolves around bettors and without bettors it will fail
Agree 100%

2. The current average age of horse racing bettors is close to one billion years old

Saw younger people than that during my many trips to the spa this summer.
3. Horse racing does not do anything (or, at most, very little) correct to attract new bettors and therefore is dying

Disagree

4. Horse racing is viewed by younger bettors (like 18 year-olds such as myself) as being a fixed, corrupt game that one cannot win at.

Really?
5. This is very unlike, for instance, the message that poker has sold to reinvent itself
I have no idea what to think of this
6. The reason horse racing is seen as fixed and corrupt is because, well, it is
Wow..that's a pretty optimistic view. If this is really the case, then why are you still involved?
7. Ordinary bettors (people that do/would bet) believe that unless you are an industry "insider" it is impossible to beat the game. (I could offer as evidence myriad examples)

I have thought this before myself, so therefore, I agree.
8. Worse yet, for some reason, the industry allows for (and in some case encourages) this corruption and faulty marketing strategy to perpetuate itself.

Don't really know what to think of this.
9. I am a crusader. I am a vigilante. I will address these issues when they rear their ugly head.

You go! Kick some ass!
10. Vic is an ugly head.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 733210)

A lot of attacking the poster going on around here instead of disagreeing with the message. Typical internet crap.

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan (Post 733222)

Hmmmm.
Just for argument sake, I'll evaluate this young mans above post.