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Scav 11-09-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 721340)
Explain.... I won the touch, brand new in box in a Madden Tourny about 18 months ago.

A Madden tourney? OMFG

prudery 11-09-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 721244)
Actually Blind Luck couldn't run in ANY RACE Zenyatta ran in. As a 3 year old, she wasn't eligible for the Santa Margarita or Apple Blossom.

Yes she could have.

The Clement Hirsch and the Lady's Secret are both for three and up .

Hollendorfer opted to ship her to the Cotillion and pick up weight to avoid taking on Zenyatta and said so.

Dahoss 11-09-2010 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery (Post 721351)
Yes she could have.

The Clement Hirsch and the Lady's Secret are both for three and up .

Hollendorfer opted to ship her to the Cotillion and pick up weight to avoid taking on Zenyatta and said so.

I realize that. Read the post I was responding to. He said ANY RACE. Well obviously she wasn't eligible for any race. She was eligible for the Vanity also. Just not the first two.

RockHardTen1985 11-09-2010 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 721348)
A Madden tourney? OMFG


If you knew about the cash money I walked out of some spots with. This black dude was into me for $1800 last year, madden I owe you's paid every cent.

Scav 11-09-2010 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 721359)
If you knew about the cash money I walked out of some spots with. This black dude was into me for $1800 last year, madden I owe you's paid every cent.

you are kinda like Pat Summerall

Indian Charlie 11-09-2010 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 721359)
If you knew about the cash money I walked out of some spots with. This black dude was into me for $1800 last year, madden I owe you's paid every cent.

Yeah, you gotta really watch those black dudes that owe you 1800.


Great, now my freaking power is out.

This day is just getting more retarded by the hour/post.

Dahoss 11-09-2010 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 721341)
How did Medaglia d'Oro not get 3 year old honors?

He was a lot better than War Emblem but if you look at just wins that year, I can see how War Emblem got it. Ill. Derby, KY Derby, Preakness and Haskell looks better than San Felipe, Jim Dandy and Travers. When you look at Medaglia's places in the Wood, Belmont and BC Classic he looks a lot better though.

Flawed system.

prudery 11-09-2010 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 721353)
I realize that. Read the post I was responding to. He said ANY RACE. Well obviously she wasn't eligible for any race. She was eligible for the Vanity also. Just not the first two.

I guess I didn't go back far enough and missed the dynamic of the discourse .

She was also eligible obviously for the BCC .

Claro---just not the first two .

The Indomitable DrugS 11-09-2010 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 721312)
I can't remember but did Azeri clearly have the best year when she won HOY? Wasn't there someone else that was pretty good that year and people bitched and moan about her winning it. I can't remember if she won it the year she got drilled in the Classic or not.

Rock of Gibralter got something like 7 votes for Horse of the Year that year - and he didn't even win the BC Mile in his only lone North American start.

RockHardTen1985 11-09-2010 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 721364)
you are kinda like Pat Summerall

Im not even allowed back to 2 local spots. 1 in Albany that I got hooked up through a poker game, more of poker w/ Madden. Same thing in Ballston Spa, Poker w/ madden. I talk so much **** when Im winning they dont want me back.
I always win, I will play my back up quarterback, I sub him in and take a knee with him. I say, I gotta let these little digital back up's get some burn, they part of the team. Its classic in person, when I actually pause the game and go from Aaron Rodgers to Matt Flynn. Do you know how mad people get when your up 21-3, your defense is amazing... The entire game they are hearing NON STOP **** TALKING, IM THIS GOOD I CAN ONLY BEAT MYSELF.... There $100 or $200 is up in front of the flat screen, and Im pausing the game, delaying the inevitable to put my back up's in. What a feeling...

RockHardTen1985 11-09-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery (Post 721370)
I guess I didn't go back far enough and missed the dynamic of the discourse .

She was also eligible obviously for the BCC .

Claro---just not the first two .

When I said any, I also meant from summer on. Clearly 3yr old wont step up in April-May when the Oaks is the goal.

Scav 11-09-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 721374)
When I said any, I also meant from summer on. Clearly 3yr old wont step up in April-May when the Oaks is the goal.

I just got melted Crunch bar all over my Churchill Friday PP's, how hot does that make you?

Scav 11-09-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 721371)
Rock of Gibralter got something like 7 votes for Horse of the Year that year - and he didn't even win the BC Mile in his only lone North American start.

If that was the year he ran at Arlington and Landseer broke down, his run in that race was singlely the most impressive close I have ever seen. Matter fact, gonna go watch it again right now

MaTH716 11-09-2010 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 721378)
If that was the year he ran at Arlington and Landseer broke down, his run in that race was singlely the most impressive close I have ever seen. Matter fact, gonna go watch it again right now

Instead of watching the race, how bout coming up with a timeline for your little jaunt to Toronto. Or is it a straight to dvd release?

The Indomitable DrugS 11-09-2010 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 721378)
If that was the year he ran at Arlington and Islington broke down, his run in that race was singlely the most impressive close I have ever seen. Matter fact, gonna go watch it again right now

It was impressive - I think it was Landseer who broke down though.

Street Cry was the best older male that year - and would have had no trouble beating Azeri.

http://www1.drf.com/eclipse/2002/pps/om.pdf


Well - he was the best older male who wasn't juiced to the gills anyway.

RockHardTen1985 11-09-2010 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 721384)
It was impressive - I think it was Landseer who broke down though.

Street Cry was the best older male that year - and would have had no trouble beating Azeri.

http://www1.drf.com/eclipse/2002/pps/om.pdf


Well - he was the best older male who wasn't juiced to the gills anyway.

I had my uncle bet Street Cry for me in the Foster... It was one of my first BIGGER BETS. I remember telling him, this horse should be 1-5 and he was 2-1. Talented, finding overlays at 16.

MaTH716 11-09-2010 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 721387)
I had my uncle bet Street Cry for me in the Foster... It was one of my first BIGGER BETS. I remember telling him, this horse should be 1-5 and he was 2-1. Talented, finding overlays at 16.

Were you as astute with your NBA plays back then as well?

Sightseek 11-09-2010 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 721384)
It was impressive - I think it was Landseer who broke down though.

Street Cry was the best older male that year - and would have had no trouble beating Azeri.

http://www1.drf.com/eclipse/2002/pps/om.pdf


Well - he was the best older male who wasn't juiced to the gills anyway.

What a monster stable Frankel had that year.

RockHardTen1985 11-09-2010 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 721389)
Were you as astute with your NBA plays back then as well?

I'm done for a while. Honestly.

Scav 11-09-2010 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 721383)
Instead of watching the race, how bout coming up with a timeline for your little jaunt to Toronto. Or is it a straight to dvd release?

Nah, kinda over those recaps, was a good time and want to go back in the summer when turf racing is going on, nothing crazy happened since I was with my dad and his friends most of the trip, I'm in a little bit of a tiff with my group of frends now and they stayed in the city and I never went and partied with them.

I will say that I was pretty impressed with my old man(56 I think) and his friends, they stayed up till 2am one of the nights playing poker in the hotel lobby, wasn't sure they had the stamina to stay up that late anymore, I was sound asleep at like midnight after being drained from a full day of horse playing.

I chalked it up to them being old and not having freedom anymore and I guess they figured they had to take advantage of it.

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 721384)
It was impressive - I think it was Landseer who broke down though.

Street Cry was the best older male that year - and would have had no trouble beating Azeri.

http://www1.drf.com/eclipse/2002/pps/om.pdf


Well - he was the best older male who wasn't juiced to the gills anyway.

Yeah, I corrected it when I was 10 seconds in about who broke down. Just watched Storm Flag Flying's race also, that was a good race also.


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