yup , but it's against the law if you know there was collusion at the sale

if you could ever get him on the phone

it's similar to politcs steve , the media pick and choose who they want to bury ,it's the american way ....how on earth anyone with a straight face can say that obama was anymore qualified to be president than any of the challengers from both sides is a complete farce .....he was the media's messiah, over at nbc they actually believe he can walk on water

Marty,

Do you call McPeek often? You have horses with him? You do a lot of business with him? Or are you simply parroting someone else and their alleged issues with him?

no , no, no , yes

but you already know that

he does have very good asst's , i don't think that can be overlooked

In my world its pretty simple, if the ruling body isnt specifically testing for a dangerous substance then clearly it can not be illegal. There are laws on the books that are valid, those are the ones enforced, you know tested for etc. You elect to avoid medication which you know will be beneficial to your stock because you have concerns that in 2037 there might be enforcement of a ridiculous law without teeth? More power to you if you can make folks money and earn a living being concerned about 2037 testing in 2010 congrats.

So let me get this right.. People use certain meds that the State Authorities have deemed illegal yet they did as such under the broad spectrum of "Anything Unnaturally Occuring", they failed to set guideline on use and allowable amounts(how could they they have no clue what it is they are talking about) and deemed ANY existence in ANY quanitity offensible eventhough guidelines haven't been established. I guess they figure they can set the guidelines after they figure out what indeed they are looking for. So you figure these people are cheaters because they are using meds that the state hasn't given any friggin structure on at all.. So you figure you will self police yourself and you will determine in Chucky's world what is Aspirin vs. Heroin. More importantly, your definitions as such will be the guidelines for whom you call smug cheaters and whom you call squeaky clean. Anything else you would like to share with us? How about an 11th commandment? Thou shall live by Chuck's self righteous self serving views.. . Again always root for you and your success just because I think your completely insane doesnt mean I dont wish you and yours the very best of success and luck.

Please Chuck give the guy credit. He has won a a lot with horses that were not exactly a++ types. He won wth a lot 25 -100k types that turned out to be very good earners. I wish his 2009 on you and yours in 2010

When you are an owner of horses and you are earning money the invoices are a lot easier to pay then if you are blow thru 300k a year without much success. Who gives a F about invoices when you are earning.. Stop it give the man his due

freddymo is the guy who praised Madoff before the scheme collapsed.

and got his $$$ out many years ago , they can't even go back and get it from him as the staute of limitations expired :D :D

OK, you win Chuck - he totally sucks as a blood-stock agent and a trainer and you're like the best EVAH. :rolleyes:

Marty, AGAIN...she won 2 races on the dirt at Toga this summer and both of those were off the turf events. Races scheduled for the dirt she was 0 for 12

again , no turf races at belmont or the big a this fall kev? i guess the only NY track i was watching this fall was yonkers

You know he's not the only guy doing this right? The buyer should be doing their homework and if they feel the results are worth the mark-up so be it.

Personally I'd rather buy a horse for $75K, knowing McPeek is making out on the horse than buying a horse out-right at an auction for $200K from a guy who doesn't have McPeek's record of buying at the sales but that is just me.

you can't be a little pregnant , either you are are your aren't

Sorry Marty, didn't realize that all 3 NYRA tracks had the same condition book for every meet. How foolish of me not to recognize that.

can you pull up these stats please

how many of her wins were turf sprints at SAR? how many were routes? 2 of her wins were off turf

how many turf sprints did BEL card this fall? how many turf routes did bel card this fall?

what were her stats in those compares to SAR ?

how many turf sprints at the big a so far , how many turf routes? what are her stats?

Did you know that this summer at Saratoga it was the first time EVER that more than HALF the races were carded for the turf? 195 of the 365 races. You think that plays into the hands of a turf specialist trainer like Linda? All 20 of her winners were on races scheduled for the grass.
20 winners at Toga this summer.
11 @ 5 1/2 furlongs on the turf
2 off the turf winners
7 turf route winners.

Little Richard?....Who doesn't like Little Richard.

The point is not to dis anyone as buying a yearling is exciting and risky at any level. The point is to praise someone who did well even if he took the first sip of cream off the top. I really hope Chuck and Bob win a g1 with any of their stuff. Heck just because Chuck and I dont see eye to eye certainly doesnt mean I don't wish him anything but the very best.