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brockguy 09-16-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Get a job and buy it your damn self. Damn illegals aliens always mooching off us hard working Americans.

:)


I think I would need my job to pay 1,000 times more than it does to even consider it, but thats the dream.. And I do believe it isn't that big an issue to ship the horse to the Ireland from the sales.. I probably would keep it in the States though!

Scav 09-16-2009 07:36 PM

797 is about go through the ring and he was an absolute awesome individual, he was on a short list until xrays were viewed.

freddymo 09-16-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
797 is about go through the ring and he was an absolute awesome individual, he was on a short list until xrays were viewed.

Rachel failed to Vet twice

freddymo 09-16-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
797 is about go through the ring and he was an absolute awesome individual, he was on a short list until xrays were viewed.

What it go for?

Scav 09-16-2009 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
What it go for?

105k I think, I heard Rachel had one issue in one leg, this Tapit had problems in all joints

Got beat out of one today, the other we passed on.

The Zappers are selling really really poorly

I saw all your people out here today, including Mr and Mrs Moss who had lunch right next to us.

Scav 09-16-2009 08:10 PM

Oh, and TV does Jon Court's wife no justice, she is pretty f'n hot in person.

GPK 09-16-2009 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Oh, and TV does Jon Court's wife no justice, she is pretty f'n hot in person.

Did you wear your white Derby Day suit today?:rolleyes:

Diver67 09-16-2009 08:27 PM

Zayat bought the Tapit, 797, at $130,000. He and Baffert were both buying today.

Scav 09-16-2009 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Diver67
Zayat bought the Tapit, 797, at $130,000. He and Baffert were both buying today.

Baffert almost got killed by 604 today. He didn't want Baffert anywhere near him. He was a good looking Zapper that went for 75k I think

Linny 09-16-2009 09:06 PM

Zapper was the most expensive new sire of his year and his babies have been less than stellar for all the attention they have gotten. I didn't thnk he's be a win early sire and the one I've seen run really well won at 8.5f on grass. It is costing him alot in the sales ring this year. They are generally nice looking but don't have a "sprinters" build. He may prove to be a better sire of 3yo's, but that doesn't help those with 2nd crop in the sales.

Merlinsky 09-17-2009 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Baffert almost got killed by 604 today. He didn't want Baffert anywhere near him. He was a good looking Zapper that went for 75k I think

Did he bust out a switchblade?

GBBob 09-17-2009 10:58 AM

We are bidding on 846 going in shortly

MaTH716 09-17-2009 11:05 AM

410,000

freddymo 09-17-2009 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
105k I think, I heard Rachel had one issue in one leg, this Tapit had problems in all joints

Got beat out of one today, the other we passed on.

The Zappers are selling really really poorly

I saw all your people out here today, including Mr and Mrs Moss who had lunch right next to us.

You have your "go Zenyatta go" poster handy?

Kasept 09-17-2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
You can find 10 other horses as wonderful as the Dixie Union that went for 500k. I know way more about selling then you. I know that when something is recently successful that people try to copy it. If you don't think that last weekends results didn't substantially impact the bidding on anything Dixie Union then you seriously have no idea about human nature.

A sidebar to the Dixie Union discussion the other day... Subject of Ray Paulick piece today:

But right in the middle of those five sires–which had 2009 stud fees ranging from a high of $250,000 for A.P. Indy, $125,000 each for Giant’s Causeway and Unbridled’s Song and $80,000 for Pulpit—is a stallion who is priced much more affordably and is quietly having his best year at stud, as represented by his offspring on the track and the sale ring. That stallion is Dixie Union, a multiple-American Graded Stakes-winning son of Dixieland Band who stands at Lane’s End Farm in Versailles, Ky. Dixie Union has been represented by six AGS winners of 2009 that have won eight AGS races.

http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/am...istling-dixie/

freddymo 09-17-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
A sidebar to the Dixie Union discussion the other day... Subject of Ray Paulick piece today:

But right in the middle of those five sires–which had 2009 stud fees ranging from a high of $250,000 for A.P. Indy, $125,000 each for Giant’s Causeway and Unbridled’s Song and $80,000 for Pulpit—is a stallion who is priced much more affordably and is quietly having his best year at stud, as represented by his offspring on the track and the sale ring. That stallion is Dixie Union, a multiple-American Graded Stakes-winning son of Dixieland Band who stands at Lane’s End Farm in Versailles, Ky. Dixie Union has been represented by six AGS winners of 2009 that have won eight AGS races.

http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/am...istling-dixie/


Naturally and since many have been doing so well this year people changed their value of him as a potential BIG horse stallion. Doesn't the opposite happen as well. Don't we see stallions get demoted all the time because they fail to produce desired results? But apparently the yearling that Chuck bid on would have sold for 500 regardless if DU was an icecube this year. Sometimes they are just so flawless as yearlings that people just have to have them.

Remember before last weekend the best Dixie Unions were Chattter, Grasshopper, and High Cotton.. I guess the buzz(because of Gone Astray and Whistle Dixie) is they he will be another Smart Strike type. Who tossed some ok runners the first 3,4 years and then exploded and hasn't looked back.

My one point to Chuck which he discounted (as usual) was that without the last weekend nobody would be putting to much stock on just a yearlings flawless looks.

Cannon Shell 09-17-2009 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Naturally and since many have been doing so well this year people changed their value of him as a potential BIG horse stallion. Doesn't the opposite happen as well. Don't we see stallions get demoted all the time because they fail to produce desired results? But apparently the yearling that Chuck bid on would have sold for 500 regardless if DU was an icecube this year. Sometimes they are just so flawless as yearlings that people just have to have them.

Remember before last weekend the best Dixie Unions were Chattter, Grasshopper, and High Cotton.. I guess the buzz(because of Gone Astray and Whistle Dixie) is they he will be another Smart Strike type. Who tossed some ok runners the first 3,4 years and then exploded and hasn't looked back.

My one point to Chuck which he discounted (as usual) was that without the last weekend nobody would be putting to much stock on just a yearlings flawless looks.

Ridiclous. I discount what you say because you really have no understanding of what you are talking about.

freddymo 09-18-2009 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Ridiclous. I discount what you say because you really have no understanding of what you are talking about.

Those folks at Hermitage really turn out quality. I hope you guys do great with the new additions. Did you hear? Gone Astray will be standing at Lanes End...Not unlike wine futures, you can now purchase futures in Stallion results, get in early on the the Gone Astray's I figure with that Phipps blood they should be suited for Poly and AP for the '13 season.

freddymo 09-18-2009 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Naturally and since many have been doing so well this year people changed their value of him as a potential BIG horse stallion. Doesn't the opposite happen as well. Don't we see stallions get demoted all the time because they fail to produce desired results? But apparently the yearling that Chuck bid on would have sold for 500 regardless if DU was an icecube this year. Sometimes they are just so flawless as yearlings that people just have to have them.

Remember before last weekend the best Dixie Unions were Chattter, Grasshopper, and High Cotton.. I guess the buzz(because of Gone Astray and Whistle Dixie) is they he will be another Smart Strike type. Who tossed some ok runners the first 3,4 years and then exploded and hasn't looked back.

My one point to Chuck which he discounted (as usual) was that without the last weekend nobody would be putting to much stock on just a yearlings flawless looks.


Yep Dixie Union was on everyone's short list in '07..

The Indomitable DrugS 09-18-2009 03:07 AM

Dixie Union wasn't that much as a race horse .. and he's certainly never sired a horse nearly as good as himself.

I'll give you that much Freddy.

Hot Dixie Chick is a freak for a 2yo sprint filly ... but her dam Above Perfection was also a pure freak. Above Perfection ran Beyers of 80, 107, 101, and 112 in career starts #1, 2, 3, and 4.

Compare that to Hot Dixie Chick's 86, 100, 103, and 95 in starts 1 through 4.

Dixie Union's never had an offspring run a 108 Beyer or higher and I think his only two lifetime Grade 1 winners are Hot Dixie Chick and the immortal Dixie Chatter... who took an ugly version of the Norfolk over Salute the Sarge.

His best horse, the great Grasshopper, still has his N4X alw condition after 17 starts ... and his 3 race 2009 season consisted of embarassing defeats on all 3 different surfaces. He got beat 15 on dirt by Honest Man, 4 on turf by Gold Wonder, and 12 on synthetic by Parading.


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