i saw that there was a rumor that he had brought the syringe in inside his coat-that the owners were pretty ticked off when they heard that was how he brought it into the det barn; mullins of course denies it, saying the syringe was in the pail with his other stuff. of course, he's always the most honest of fellows. i'm sure he's shocked anyone would doubt him.

From the Bloodhorse story on the Mullins defense:

Gato Go Win is owned by the partnership of Dean De Renzo, Randy Hartley, Joey Platts, and William "Joe" Sims. Mullins said NYRA officials told the owners they would be reimbursed for all the nomination and entry fees associated with the Bay Shore.

If this is true, NYRA ought to be ashamed of themselves.

mullins should be the one to reimburse. if not for his stupidity, the horse could have and would have run.

is it standard procedure to reimburse when there's a scratch, regardless of the reason why?

I could see refunding the start fee, but entry and nomination fee, that's a crock.

The only time that we have received entry fees back was on an occasion where we entered a horse in a turf stake, and he was on the AEs and did not draw into the race.

Wouldn't they confiscate it and test it later? I sure hope so.

To go off on a boxing scandel rant ...

The great trainer Panama Lewis got in no trouble in an 80's fight when the tv camera caught him yelling "not that bottle, the special one I mixed" when Aaron 'The Hawk' Pryor was given his water in his corner at the end of a round in a fight he was struggling in.

After he drank from the requested special water bottle .. he rallied with total ferocity and KO'd Alexis Arguello.

I guess a lot of people brushed it aside .. saying the great Pyror never needed to cheat and all.

The very next year - one of Panama's more light punching fighters beat an undefeated young fighter to a pulp. When the trainer of the young fighter went to shake the hand of Panama's fighter afterwards ... he felt that the padding had been cut out of the glove and went crazy to get the attention of the state commision.

Turns out - not only had the padding been cut away .. but Panama's fighter also had his hand wrap soaked in plaster. The young fighter suffered career ending injuries and committed suicide less than a year later.

Had Panama Lewis been punished and had more than just his reputation slightly hurt from the water bottle incident .. it makes you wonder if he wouldn't have been cheating so brazenly again so soon after getting in no trouble.

why are any of you suprised mullins is a bad guy..why do you think maker all of a sudden got on a 'roll' :rolleyes: remember when noone could beat contessa on the inner..:rolleyes: our sport has its issues just knowing who
is a bad guy helps.notice who did not win every 2 year old race this year at
toga.t.a.p.. i have a respect for the people who want integrity in the sport but until they have the vets under one flag it wont happen.

with something potentally so serious to go unanswered, on the dawn of the derby, until the stewards meet 'probably wednesday' is ludicrous. Turn it over to law enforcement who work 24/7 if need be.

No no and no. CONGRESS!!


:rolleyes:

Honestly, I don't think anybody is surprised here, based on the responses. More disgusted than anything else. As if we didn't need anything more to hate him for.

As for Contessa, yeah I'm sure he's not entirely on the up and up, but when it comes to the inner he's sending out MUCH better stock than everybody else and has the legitimate favorite in nearly every race he enters. He gets a lot of wins in NYB company where he'll risk a horse with some ability in a MCL where half the field is completely inept.

Did they draw blood samples from Gato Go Win ?

Should we really make anyone see Jeff Mullins naked against their will? Just send him to prison and at least then it'll be "consensual."

I don't think we should be so quick to assume IEAH won't publicly pitch a fit. They can of course write it off to being the other owner's right to decide the trainer but they won't miss an opportunity to cry 'I am shocked, shocked, to learn there is cheating going on in this establishment...'

interesting

Did they catch Mullins before or after?

I assume they tested IWR.

:tro:

But it was extremely stupid to say that about New York when his fate is in the NYRA's hands, not to mention IEAH'es. It sure doesn't look like many who posted here took the time to read any or all of the links posted on the thread. Maybe that's why those people are confused.

Maybe all those confused people dont believe Mullins story? I mean his word is worth so much. He would always tell the truth. :wf

From their post's it was obvious they didn't even know the facts as stated in the articles. They kept bringing up questions that had already been answered. Even the post right before mine asked if they "caught" Mullins before or after.

Crap I missed a caption contest. Hmm. Is it wrong to suggest "Next time on...To Catch a Predator" ?

I read that they caught him before. I was asking for clarification. Maybe I should have asked, "do they suspect he had something else in his system that might have disappeared after a race" I didn't read if they had already given him lasix.

since nothing can be administered, and he admitted to applying the creme to the horses nostrils, is that a violation as well? of course having the syringe was against the rules, but i haven't really seen anyone talk about the ointment.