No Scavs, this is all off the top of my head, I remember everything that I want to...

Hey Oracle...go **** in your hat. You might have great knowledge about horseracing, but your superior attitude annoys the hell out of me. I am redboarding, believe me or not, but I bet the 5 horse that beat Songster to win at 10/1. The reason Songster lost is because of the pinheads that set 21.4 and 44.1 fractions and Prado who chased them, not the horse or the trainer.

And BTW, how much do you really know if you put your money on a 1/9 shot?

Details, details! Don't confuse me with the facts.:D

You mean the kind like Bernardini was pushed hard down the backstretch...

Never said that. Said he wasn't loose on the lead. Didn't have much competition and was slop-aided in the Dandy too. But he did basically repeat his Preakness Fig on BSF scale (maybe a projection?). I think that number is representative of his ability and he has room to mature, and he's not a need the lead type.

What did the sheets give him in the Dandy and Preakness?

I'd like him to throw in a clunker along the way and get a price on him in the Classic....

Just remembered another one, Charismatic, ran a huge Beyer at Keeneland and then won the Derby and Preakness, also Menifee ran a nice Blue Grass that same year and ran 2nd in the Derby and Preakness and won the Haskell...