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Cannon Shell 10-07-2008 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
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Umm, chuck, Isreal wasnt a state until 1948. And if you dont think aid militarily and economically has grown exponentially since the sixties, you are proving even more clueless on the topic than i originally thought.

I dont know why you feel the need to call names? 1945,48, what is the difference. You called me out for suggesting their was a jewish vote. Which their obviously is. Then you call me out and call me names yet never answer any of the questions. You ignore the fact that our Isreali policy is basically the same regardless of party in charge. the only thing you brought to this discussion was the introduction of the Isreal Lobby and it's conservative eadership but failed to do anything else but call names. Or of course some 1000 page crap that we are supposed to take as fact.

Mortimer 10-07-2008 10:05 AM

When the liquor's out why clink the cannikin?

dalakhani 10-07-2008 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike
I can't believe this thread is averaging a post every 15 seconds for the past hour. Don't people want to talk about McCain and Nazi death squads?

You have to post gems like this one in order to get activity. You have to give people history lessons about israel and the middle east.


Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
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You accused me of something a few posts ago that was so ridiclous that you refuse to respond to my post yet I need to educate myself? The US policy towrds Isreal has not varied much depending on who the leadership was in this country since 1945.

Cannon Shell 10-07-2008 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Yes it is a COMPLETE stretch Chuck and you are so very wrong about my posts you cant seem to grasp it. I think its crazy how much :$: we give them, and they ARE a more than competant country. But to assume I feel we need to withdraw support for them and not have them as an ally is rediculous Chuck. But we dont need to give them so much :$: . We have tons of allies we dont treat like Isreal.

Do we have any other allies in the Middle east? Should we send England some more money because we are concerned about the North sea oilfields? How exactly can you or i determine exactly what is too much or not enough aid between countries?

Coach Pants 10-07-2008 10:08 AM



MEEP MEEP!!!

Mortimer 10-07-2008 10:09 AM

OH MINE GOD!!




thud

Cannon Shell 10-07-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
You have to post gems like this one in order to get activity. You have to give people history lessons about israel and the middle east.


Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
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You accused me of something a few posts ago that was so ridiclous that you refuse to respond to my post yet I need to educate myself? The US policy towrds Isreal has not varied much depending on who the leadership was in this country since 1945.

Again, not substance, but arrogance.

dalakhani 10-07-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I dont know why you feel the need to call names? 1945,48, what is the difference. You called me out for suggesting their was a jewish vote. Which their obviously is. Then you call me out and call me names yet never answer any of the questions. You ignore the fact that our Isreali policy is basically the same regardless of party in charge. the only thing you brought to this discussion was the introduction of the Isreal Lobby and it's conservative eadership but failed to do anything else but call names. Or of course some 1000 page crap that we are supposed to take as fact.

And what have you brought Chuck besides your uneducated views on a topic you have nary a clue. You attempt to regurgitate your party line banter no doubt garnered from Foxnews and Sean Hannity. YOU THINK ISRAEL WAS BORN IN 1945 and our policy hasnt changed since. What choice do i have but to call that statement ignorant?

Antitrust32 10-07-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
You have to post gems like this one in order to get activity. You have to give people history lessons about israel and the middle east.


Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
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You accused me of something a few posts ago that was so ridiclous that you refuse to respond to my post yet I need to educate myself? The US policy towrds Isreal has not varied much depending on who the leadership was in this country since 1945.


Dala.. I know you have a big arguement with Cannon about this, but seriously, using the 1945 thing when it was 1948 is not going to help you out and makes you look kind of silly.

dalakhani 10-07-2008 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Again, not substance, but arrogance.

I posted an essay by two trusted scholars...one from HARVARD. What have you provided?

Mortimer 10-07-2008 10:12 AM

I'm Theodore Roosevelt. Who are you?




Woodrow Wilson...now go to bed!!

dalakhani 10-07-2008 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Dala.. I know you have a big arguement with Cannon about this, but seriously, using the 1945 thing when it was 1948 is not going to help you out and makes you look kind of silly.

Actually it doesnt. Many people are misinformed about the creation of Israel. Many think that it was created in 1945 as a result of the holocaust immediately after the war. It was agreed upon in 1947 and founded in 1948. Dates are important ESPECIALLY those dates. Not knowing the year shows a complete lack of understanding of the subject.

It is akin to saying that Secretariat won the triple crown in 1976.

Antitrust32 10-07-2008 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Do we have any other allies in the Middle east? Should we send England some more money because we are concerned about the North sea oilfields? How exactly can you or i determine exactly what is too much or not enough aid between countries?

I'm going to pull and Obama and say this question is above my pay scale.

Coach Pants 10-07-2008 10:13 AM



THEBBY PALIN!!

Mortimer 10-07-2008 10:15 AM

fr&l-a!!!!

Cannon Shell 10-07-2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
And what have you brought Chuck besides your uneducated views on a topic you have nary a clue. You attempt to regurgitate your party line banter no doubt garnered from Foxnews and Sean Hannity. YOU THINK ISRAEL WAS BORN IN 1945 and our policy hasnt changed since. What choice do i have but to call that statement ignorant?

hard to believe I put 1945 when it was 1948. So far off. What have I said that isnt true? That Isreal is our only ally in the ME? That the ME is a unstable area? That Isreal has nukes and wont be afraid to use them if threatened? That it is impossible for people on a mesage board to determine the what amount of aid between countries is correct? That our policy towrds Isreal has been pretty consistent regardless of ruling party?

dalakhani 10-07-2008 10:16 AM

http://www.fpif.org/briefs/vol1/israel_body.html

Another essay

Cannon Shell 10-07-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I posted an essay by two trusted scholars...one from HARVARD. What have you provided?

Two trusted scholars? How do we know that? major US universities have tenured professors that believe in UFO's. Bush went to an Ivy league school and according to you he is an idiot.

Antitrust32 10-07-2008 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Actually it doesnt. Many people are misinformed about the creation of Israel. Many think that it was created in 1945 as a result of the holocaust immediately after the war. It was agreed upon in 1947 and founded in 1948. Dates are important ESPECIALLY those dates. Not knowing the year shows a complete lack of understanding of the subject.

It is akin to saying that Secretariat won the triple crown in 1976.


to riducule him based on a 3 year difference is silly.

Mortimer 10-07-2008 10:20 AM

miss tessmaucher!!!!


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