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Bobby Fischer 03-29-2008 05:25 PM

he paid $22.00 to win on Derby Trails!:p

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-29-2008 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
The Derby Favorite

Can hardly wait for the Big Brown vs. War Pass match up :rolleyes:

You can your Big Browns of the world.....will be the biggest bust since Arazi in '92.....mark my words!

Oaklawnfan 03-29-2008 06:01 PM

Just for a minute lets pretend that horses can bounce. That doesn't mean that Big Brown couldn't win the Roses, but I think it's a little early to drink the Kool Aid.

Not that I upset I didn't bet him.:confused:

miraja2 03-29-2008 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Some people will have crow on the menu tonight! One of them will be me.

Why will people be eating crow? I don't want to take the time to read through this whole thread again, but I don't remember very many people bashing the horse. I don't think anybody said that he didn't have a chance to win.
Some of us just didn't think he was a particularly good wager in this race. It turns out he was perhaps better than we thought he was, but I don't think anybody really knocked the horse.

Cajungator26 03-29-2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Why will people be eating crow? I don't want to take the time to read through this whole thread again, but I don't remember very many people bashing the horse. I don't think anybody said that he didn't have a chance to win.
Some of us just didn't think he was a particularly good wager in this race. It turns out he was perhaps better than we thought he was, but I don't think anybody really knocked the horse.

Can't remember, but I think I was one who said he had no shot based upon his post. I'll eat crow for dinner... why not? Nothing better to eat around here. :p

fpsoxfan 03-30-2008 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Why will people be eating crow? I don't want to take the time to read through this whole thread again, but I don't remember very many people bashing the horse. I don't think anybody said that he didn't have a chance to win.
Some of us just didn't think he was a particularly good wager in this race. It turns out he was perhaps better than we thought he was, but I don't think anybody really knocked the horse.

You really should have taken the time to re-read the thread. In fact I've re-read my own post about 10 times and not once in those 15 words did I mention the word bash. The fact of the matter is that if you re-read the thread, which obviously you didn't, many people thought he would have no chance to win from that post. I for one (although I didn't post it on here) felt the same way.

miraja2 03-30-2008 09:52 AM

Okay, I STILL don't want to read the whole thread again but I'll take your word for it and stand corrected. Maybe some people did think he had "no shot."
I honestly don't know how they could have thought that about a horse that did what he did in his first two lifetime starts......but oh well. My basic point was that I think MOST of the people that didn't like him because of his post were well aware that the horse might be capable of doing something like this, but given the odds we chose to take a stand against him. There is no reason to eat crow for that.

Also, you re-read your own post ten times? Sounds like an exciting weekend you've got going on there!

ArlJim78 03-30-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
You really should have taken the time to re-read the thread. In fact I've re-read my own post about 10 times and not once in those 15 words did I mention the word bash. The fact of the matter is that if you re-read the thread, which obviously you didn't, many people thought he would have no chance to win from that post. I for one (although I didn't post it on here) felt the same way.

stating the fact that the post was a big hurdle and therefore deciding to take a stand against, is not the same thing as saying he had no chance.
I personally decided not to play him for the combined reasons (low odds, bad post, third start in GR1, etc), but never did I consider that he had NO chance. its never that black and white.

Cajungator26 03-30-2008 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Big Brown has no shot to win from that post.

And here it is... :D

Would anyone like to join me?


fpsoxfan 03-30-2008 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Okay, I STILL don't want to read the whole thread again but I'll take your word for it and stand corrected. Maybe some people did think he had "no shot."
I honestly don't know how they could have thought that about a horse that did what he did in his first two lifetime starts......but oh well. My basic point was that I think MOST of the people that didn't like him because of his post were well aware that the horse might be capable of doing something like this, but given the odds we chose to take a stand against him. There is no reason to eat crow for that.

Also, you re-read your own post ten times? Sounds like an exciting weekend you've got going on there!

Oh My.

fpsoxfan 03-30-2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
stating the fact that the post was a big hurdle and therefore deciding to take a stand against, is not the same thing as saying he had no chance.
I personally decided not to play him for the combined reasons (low odds, bad post, third start in GR1, etc), but never did I consider that he had NO chance. its never that black and white.

I really don't want to get into a battle of semantics but some people said No Chance. Can we just leave it at that. I really didn't think people would get there feelings so hurt over a post that was meant to just bust some chops, including my own. If I really thought the horse could win, I would've won a lot of money regardless of his odds. I keyed him under Eslyium Fields and Smooth Air.

Bobby Fischer 03-30-2008 11:04 AM

I don't care what u say, the smartest $5 dollar horse i defended all year :)

Danzig 03-30-2008 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Didn't you agree earlier in the week that he should be scratched?

yes, he did.


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