Is he a horse that has won 2 races in Feb of his 4 year old year? Yes.

I dont get this? Jazil hasnt won any races since the Belmont Stakes. Can you explain?

Hooves, I wont argue with maybe Jara did move too early, but do you think it cost him any different finishing position? I know you stated a fact, regardless of how good Corinthian was, Jara may have movd too soon. But in my opinion if he waited he would have still been 2nd best, only maybe 3 lengths better at best.

And I dont get the whole "he only cost $25K" argument. Who the heck cares how much horses cost except for the owner? It should make no difference at all to the fans, none. Zip. Nada. The argument is how good a horse Jazil is compared to other triple crown winners.

Like Canon, I will stay firm with my opinion. Doesnt not make him a neat little horse. Ya like him, ya like him.

He is a four year old horse who owns two lifetime wins.

Okay, that makes sense Chuck.

2 lifetime wins is all? Sounds like a "Giacomo" to me.

Now that I think of it, the similarities are very significant.

Well,if he is so pathetic,then surely you will give me 10-1 odds on him winning a Grade 2 or better in 2007.If he is just gunna pick up minor checks,then you can easily pick up a hundred or 2 from SCUDS.Just give me a minimum of 5 starts(any level) in the rest of 2007.

How about I give you 10-1 that he doesn't make 5 more starts in 2007?

That is a little aggressive....Bernardini made what, 7 total starts, maybe 6...plus if Jazil goes to Dubai, he doesn't get back on track until September, if at all.....bad bet in my opinion, the win bet though, has some teeth to it I think, but I am a 3rd party, so I should C my way out of it

Why would I bet that? Any of them can get a chip.

scuds brother... i had to return for this.. i will give you 10-1 that he wont win a grade 2 or better this year, for any amount of money you want on it.

Give me 5 starts minimum(he could have a chip right now..who knows..)

You get my $200,or I get your 2k.Any Grade 2 or better(anywhere on the Earth in 2007.)

scudsbrother when you see this you give me a pm or do it on here whatever you want to do , i will take any amount on it, and i am a man of my word if he wins you get all your money, and i'd expect the same from you

HILARIOUS....anywhere on Earth..

Check your PM

See you at Belmont,son.

Man of your word huh?
Interesting.
What about these words of yours from earlier today:
"i wont be posting anything here anymore"

What is great about this, is that we have a BINDING agreement between two people, and when Jazil wins, PG1985 is out 2k.......

no im not giving you 5 starts .... you said 10-1 that he wins a grade 2 this year, i will give you 20-1, but not 5 starts
if you agree then post back

and the only reasson i am back posting is because of this

and if i win when do i get paid, the day he's retired or jan 1, 08

Nobody thinks you will pay anyways.

Who was the poster that did not pay up? I hate this type of person. This type of person messes with my world.

bern made 8 starts i believe.
and invasor wasn't out til september. so who knows?

and i note that above, when scuds first mentioned a bet, he was asking for a min 5 starts.

this is a 20 yo kid who cannot keep his word... he shows back up on the message board just a few hours after his "goodbye cruel world" speech.

he's going to pay somebody on a bet?

i am going to pay him, i only came back for this 1 reasson, actually i will never have to pay him because the horse wont win, why are you even involved in this senttostud? do you have anything to do with this ?

sorry, i guess. it's just a humorous thread. frankly i don't really care. I have skin tags older than you. Good luck.

if this were a private conversation, it should be on PM-otherwise just fodder for the masses...

i love when posters get offended when others respond to a thread on a message board, isn't that the point??

we're all involved, we all have a stake. why i don't know what i would do if i found out that i couldn't trust the word of another poster.

plus the fact thats its the duty of all of us to butt in and provide wry commentary on threads that we have nothing to do with.

Alas, I've earned another demerit.

Somehow.... must.... go... on.

That's simple. You both have to send the money beforehand to a 3rd party that you both trust. Kasept probably doesn't want to get involved. Cannon Shell will probably be perceived by Scuds as too partial in the debate. How about someone like Sniper, ArlJim, Hooves, or some other longtime reasonably sane poster that doesn't appear to desparately need $2K?

Best would be if Scuds and ImOuttaHere sent the money via PayPal, so the money could earn 5% in PayPal's moneymarket while the bet is going on. Whoever loses could get his 5% back.

--Dunbar

LMFAO!!!

Just show me the money, boys... :cool: J/K :p

Don't jump to conclusions now...

Okay, Jim, in your case we'll settle for the occasionally sane standard!

;>)
--Dunbar

funny....don't see my name up there!

waaaaah, i'm taking my toys and going home. oh...wait. wrong place for that, have to start a new thread:rolleyes:

another demerit? not from me, i was being sarcastic.

Okay, that seems about right.:eek:

Let me suggest a change - make the Jockey CLub Gold Cup 2 miles again, the Woodward 12f, and revive the Saratoga, Pimlico, and Monmouth Cups. Then we'll separate the real classic horses from the pretenders.

In a perfect world that would be great but the problem is not in the racing schedule it is the fact that the mainstream breeders have zero desire to produce these types of horses. Like it or not one of the largest market segments at the high end of the scale is people who are buying to resell. Pinhookers are always going to look for precocious horses as long as we have 2 yr old in training sales. And a lot of buyers are looking for horses hat can earn on their investment in the short term, not long term. The fact that partnerships are geting more and more popular does not help because these people are going to try to buy horses that get to the races fast so thatthey can get action right away. It would be hard to market a partnership that was looking for 2 mile horses since they would not get a chance to race for almost 2 years after the initial investment. I think if you made these races 2 miles you would just wind up with small fields full of slow horses and Jazil.