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Cannon Shell 12-11-2006 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by uscrules
its one of the few downfalls of being super rich, you always are going to have people dragging on your coattails trying to get a buck or 3 thrown their way. no i am not near rich but i am surrounded by people who pay more for their plasma tvs than i do my car. lame way to go through life if you ask me. i would rather stay struggling. buy your own damn horse if you want to be a player.

I've tried both....I'll take rich!

oracle80 12-11-2006 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I've tried both....I'll take rich!

The ****ing nerve of you!!! I bet your wife is real mad that her husband is trying to make a living instead of being a player!!! Oh the shame!!

Cannon Shell 12-11-2006 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
The ****ing nerve of you!!! I bet your wife is real mad that her husband is trying to make a living instead of being a player!!! Oh the shame!!

She has more money than me!

oracle80 12-11-2006 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
She has more money than me!

Of course she does!! You are a horse trainer.

ArlJim78 12-11-2006 05:10 PM

My advice to all you people...


start drinking heavily.

uscrules 12-11-2006 05:12 PM

yes i want to be rich hypothetically someday but I will do it myself and with only my hard work, that is how i was brought up. not to mooch off others even though i know i could if i sought that way out.

The Bid 12-11-2006 05:14 PM

God USC is lucky they lost to UCLA, Ohio State may have beat them 100 to 0

uscrules 12-11-2006 05:14 PM

My advice to all you people...


start drinking heavily.


Right on partner. wings, pizza and all the beer you can drink at my pad tonight to watch da bears. anyone near Kansas City (Missouri side), gitty up.

Cannon Shell 12-11-2006 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by uscrules
yes i want to be rich hypothetically someday but I will do it myself and with only my hard work, that is how i was brought up. not to mooch off others even though i know i could if i sought that way out.

Dude I know you were a football player and as such weren't held to a higher academic standard but the majority of rich people either mooched or robbed.

uscrules 12-11-2006 05:17 PM

God USC is lucky they lost to UCLA, Ohio State may have beat them 100 to 0

We will never know for sure. But if you are saying the Yuckeyes would have beaten us 100-0, then shouldnt Michigan beat us by at least 75-0, considering they are very close in ability to the Yuckeyes?

That we will find out. The linesmakers dont think the Wolverines will beat us that badly. Last time I checked it was 2 for the spread.

Cannon Shell 12-11-2006 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Dude I know you were a football player and as such weren't held to a higher academic standard but the majority of rich people either mooched or robbed.

That football player knock was wrong, I should have just said as a USC alumn

uscrules 12-11-2006 05:18 PM

Dude I know you were a football player and as such weren't held to a higher academic standard but the majority of rich people either mooched or robbed.

Thats lame and uncalled for. exactly what academic standard is a horse trainer held to? please tell us mr. rocket scientist.

The Bid 12-11-2006 05:18 PM

Michigan will beat USC by double digits. Wont be a game 17+

oracle80 12-11-2006 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by uscrules
yes i want to be rich hypothetically someday but I will do it myself and with only my hard work, that is how i was brought up. not to mooch off others even though i know i could if i sought that way out.

You are a troll, thats number one.
Number two is that people no matter how rich don't just give people money, they didn't get rich that way. I find that wealthy people make people work real hard for what they pay them, and they also don't do business with you if you screw them of screw up.
Wealthy people often have companies and things to run, they don't have all day to watch races or read the form at like 10 tracks a day. They delegate authority to people who do.
The notion that a 5% commission earned by an agent is mooching is pretty funny. In most cases its an underpayment. Try this sometime ok?
Watch races from like 6-8 tracks a day live or on replay. Go over the charts of the tracks you can't see.
Then establish what you think may be a good buy based on years of learning and understanding teh business.
Then call up folks and ask if the horse is for sale. If it is you have to negotiate between the two parties. Then if it is you have to draw and send a written contract.
Arrange for vetting, oh yeah if it doesnt vet guess who eats the bill like a taco from Taco Bell?
It it does, arrange for money wire transfers and then arrange for shipping and the proper papers to be sent along with him. Make sure you have a valid and notarized bill of sale or he or she can't run in most jurisdictions unless you do with the foal papers.
Sound like fun? Sound like mooching? Good luck chief.

Cannon Shell 12-11-2006 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by uscrules
Dude I know you were a football player and as such weren't held to a higher academic standard but the majority of rich people either mooched or robbed.

Thats lame and uncalled for. exactly what academic standard is a horse trainer held to? please tell us mr. rocket scientist.

I have degrees in Accounting and Animal Science. And I did recant my football player in:D sult

eurobounce 12-11-2006 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
I respect everyone who owns no matter how big or small, including you, but if you think that buying 5% of a 5 claimer(which you have) and spending 250 bucks "puts something big" into the game, well I dunno.
Trying to use that as a stance to look down on others is pretty lame.
Do you really think that you aren't "in it for yourself" when you plunked down that 250 bucks?
You are delusional pal.

$250--where do you get that. Try $12,500 and another $18,200 numerous of times/ See Oracel, you are what I like to call "wasted talent." You are smart and probably very hard working. I dont know you from a hole in the wall. However, I am going to make some assumptions here. You have probably held many types of jobs in your life and you havent been successful at any of them because it is always someone else fault. You prob have been fired from a job because it was someone elses fault. You prob have had failed relationships and they have failed because it is the other person's fault. You are smart, dedicated, hard working but your tremendous ego gets in the way of you being truly successful. Now, turn that ego from selfish into unselfish and the skies is the limit for you.

eurobounce 12-11-2006 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
You are a troll, thats number one.
Number two is that people no matter how rich don't just give people money, they didn't get rich that way. I find that wealthy people make people work real hard for what they pay them, and they also don't do business with you if you screw them of screw up.
Wealthy people often have companies and things to run, they don't have all day to watch races or read the form at like 10 tracks a day. They delegate authority to people who do.
The notion that a 5% commission earned by an agent is mooching is pretty funny. In most cases its an underpayment. Try this sometime ok?
Watch races from like 6-8 tracks a day live or on replay. Go over the charts of the tracks you can't see.
Then establish what you think may be a good buy based on years of learning and understanding teh business.
Then call up folks and ask if the horse is for sale. If it is you have to negotiate between the two parties. Then if it is you have to draw and send a written contract.
Arrange for vetting, oh yeah if it doesnt vet guess who eats the bill like a taco from Taco Bell?
It it does, arrange for money wire transfers and then arrange for shipping and the proper papers to be sent along with him. Make sure you have a valid and notarized bill of sale or he or she can't run in most jurisdictions unless you do with the foal papers.
Sound like fun? Sound like mooching? Good luck chief.

So you are a secretary!!!!!!!!!!

oracle80 12-11-2006 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
$250--where do you get that. Try $12,500 and another $18,200 numerous of times/ See Oracel, you are what I like to call "wasted talent." You are smart and probably very hard working. I dont know you from a hole in the wall. However, I am going to make some assumptions here. You have probably held many types of jobs in your life and you havent been successful at any of them because it is always someone else fault. You prob have been fired from a job because it was someone elses fault. You prob have had failed relationships and they have failed because it is the other person's fault. You are smart, dedicated, hard working but your tremendous ego gets in the way of you being truly successful. Now, turn that ego from selfish into unselfish and the skies is the limit for you.

LOL!! You are about as good with people analysis as you are with horses, not real good.
Before doing what i do now I was a financial advisor with Morgan Stanley for 4 1/2 years. Earned the highest award first year advisors can get, and loved it. Sadly I entered the business(which I loved) just in time to gather assets and watch them plunge after the tech wreck and then the crushing 911 drop.
Advisors were paid on commission only, and in a down market the best advice you can give a client is to pare down any bad stuff hes holding, and sit on his hands. Thats the right thing to do. Unfortunately its tough to make any money that way if you are on commission, nearly impossible. After a while it became apparent to me that people had become very educated about buying financial products themselves, and were doing their own research on the internet, etc. So I left after 4 1/2 years. The guys who worked with me and were Vp's etc, well very few are left down at the office and I call up a friend there now and then and hes miserable.
Since then I've been doing this and enjoy it. If i wanted to be a leech I could always have moved down to Louisville and have taken Lansdon up on his generous offer to work for his company, but I have some responsibilities to family members that make that hard for me to do. I suppose its nice to know its there as a "safety net" but i enjoy working on my own for now. Before Morgan I worked for Marriott running the bar and restaurant in a hotel, left because I moved, sure wasn't fired, and had a commendation in my file for evacuating the hotel when a fire broke out and the supervisor went to pieces. Also increased sales 300% in my tenure there. So much for the many jobs huh?
relationships are personal and I don't speak about them directly. Except to say that you are wrong.
As far as taking life advice from a tire saleman? Thanks but I have plenty of friends who do posess intelligence and savvy that i would turn to before you. Actually there is a homeless guy who hangs out in front of the library around here who I would ask for advice before you!:D

oracle80 12-11-2006 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
So you are a secretary!!!!!!!!!!

Secretaries don't identify talent or know how to asess residual value of a horse. I think you kinda missed that part in the whole equation. But I would expect nothing less from an exposed shill whos currently angry about being exposed.
I'd give YOU some life advice, but I think you are a hopeless case and it wouldn't do any good anyway.

eurobounce 12-11-2006 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Secretaries don't identify talent or know how to asess residual value of a horse. I think you kinda missed that part in the whole equation. But I would expect nothing less from an exposed shill whos currently angry about being exposed.
I'd give YOU some life advice, but I think you are a hopeless case and it wouldn't do any good anyway.

Life advice?? And yours is based on what--living in a one bedroom apartment in Sartoga Springs, never married, no children living off of other people. Try getting yourself in $100k worth of debt for a dream, try having a child rely on you, try having a mortgage. Oh, then try working 18 hours a day to make it all work. Try paying off the debt, try owning your own home. You are laughable. You have accomplished absolutely ZERO in your life. Nothing. You have amounted to nothing. If you were to die today, no one would miss you. You are complete loser and I am not mad. I am disappointed in you as a person.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-11-2006 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I have degrees in Accounting and Animal Science. And I did recant my football player in:D sult

he must be chokeing on a chicken wing....lol the silence...

oracle80 12-11-2006 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Life advice?? And yours is based on what--living in a one bedroom apartment in Sartoga Springs, never married, no children living off of other people. Try getting yourself in $100k worth of debt for a dream, try having a child rely on you, try having a mortgage. Oh, then try working 18 hours a day to make it all work. Try paying off the debt, try owning your own home. You are laughable. You have accomplished absolutely ZERO in your life. Nothing. You have amounted to nothing. If you were to die today, no one would miss you. You are complete loser and I am not mad. I am disappointed in you as a person.


You really know nothing about me.
And the guy who talks like he regrets his life all the time is you, not me. Did that ever occur to you?

oracle80 12-11-2006 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Life advice?? And yours is based on what--living in a one bedroom apartment in Sartoga Springs, never married, no children living off of other people. Try getting yourself in $100k worth of debt for a dream, try having a child rely on you, try having a mortgage. Oh, then try working 18 hours a day to make it all work. Try paying off the debt, try owning your own home. You are laughable. You have accomplished absolutely ZERO in your life. Nothing. You have amounted to nothing. If you were to die today, no one would miss you. You are complete loser and I am not mad. I am disappointed in you as a person.


And please, stop acting as if you know me or anything about my life. I don't know any tire guys from Indiana.

eurobounce 12-11-2006 07:23 PM

Oracle, see you blame 9/11 for not succeeding at being an analyst. Told you that it is always someone else's fault. Talented analysts survive tough times. I wonder how many of your clients were mommy and daddys friends. How many people did you get on your own--I would guess ZERO. And if you were that good then Morgan Stanley would have found a way to keep you. Companies do not get rid of good people. That is why I got laid off. I sucked as a sales person and I didnt blame them at all. Man, I was really bad at that job--lol.

The Indomitable DrugS 12-11-2006 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
You are laughable. You have accomplished absolutely ZERO in your life. Nothing. You have amounted to nothing. If you were to die today, no one would miss you. You are complete loser and I am not mad. I am disappointed in you as a person.


Just because Oracle's had an honest and successful career in Extremely Hardcore Amature Porn.....doesn't mean you have to be jealous of him.

Bitter Queen much?

oracle80 12-11-2006 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Just because Oracle's had an honest and successful career in Extremely Hardcore Amature Porn.....doesn't mean you have to be jealous of him.

Bitter Queen much?

LOL!!!!
I wish!!

eurobounce 12-11-2006 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
You really know nothing about me.
And the guy who talks like he regrets his life all the time is you, not me. Did that ever occur to you?

lol@regrets. That is funny. I think you are the one regretting life. I think you are in your mid 40's and havent done a thing.

eurobounce 12-11-2006 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Just because Oracle's had an honest and successful career in Extremely Hardcore Amature Porn.....doesn't mean you have to be jealous of him.

Bitter Queen much?

Funny post right there.

oracle80 12-11-2006 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
lol@regrets. That is funny. I think you are the one regretting life. I think you are in your mid 40's and havent done a thing.

Wrong again.
Almost sounds like you are projecting your life on others.
You sound like an angry guy, and quite frankly I frown upon people like Seattle and now you who tell us their life story and deep feelings on the internet.
You'd be better off calling a friend or something.

eurobounce 12-11-2006 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Wrong again.
Almost sounds like you are projecting your life on others.
You sound like an angry guy, and quite frankly I frown upon people like Seattle and now you who tell us their life story and deep feelings on the internet.
You'd be better off calling a friend or something.

See my life is perfect. Wonder wife, great kids, great friends, a house that is paid for, money in the bank from hard work, a great future and able to help others out who need it. Very very satisfying life. Only think I regret is not paying attention in English class because I am lost with my daughters homework. What do you have......oh yeah NOTHING. Maybe a one bedroom apartment that u rent and some tupperware and maybe some dirty t-shirts on the floor. You have no future and you are nothing but an embarrassement. How many times has your parents told you that.

Danzig 12-11-2006 07:42 PM

this thread has become silly. as such it should be destroyed.

oracle80 12-11-2006 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
See my life is perfect. Wonder wife, great kids, great friends, a house that is paid for, money in the bank from hard work, a great future and able to help others out who need it. Very very satisfying life. Only think I regret is not paying attention in English class because I am lost with my daughters homework. What do you have......oh yeah NOTHING. Maybe a one bedroom apartment that u rent and some tupperware and maybe some dirty t-shirts on the floor. You have no future and you are nothing but an embarrassement. How many times has your parents told you that.

Dude, you really have lost it, truly. If your life is so perfect, why do you spend so much time trying to convince of us of that?
Noone I know who is happy has to repeat on a daily basis what a great life he has.
I don't wear t shirts, and I dont own tupperware. I prefer the glad stuff that is like throwaway tupperware.
Keep ranting, at some point you may believe it.

Seattleallstar 12-11-2006 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Wrong again.
Almost sounds like you are projecting your life on others.
You sound like an angry guy, and quite frankly I frown upon people like Seattle and now you who tell us their life story and deep feelings on the internet.
You'd be better off calling a friend or something.


hey ******* leave me out of your fights, stick to making home movies with Bellamy Rd

brianwspencer 12-11-2006 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Only think I regret is not paying attention in English class because I am lost with my daughters homework.

I have a degree in English from an accredited university. I am available tutoring/paper editing/proofreading at any time.

The Bid 12-11-2006 09:19 PM

Hey man, whats wrong with an apartment and plastic plates.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-11-2006 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Amature Porn.....

Bitter Queen much?

Amature? That's a new one.I approve of that way of spelling it.

The Indomitable DrugS 12-11-2006 09:37 PM

Yeah, I never claimed I had an English degree from an "accredited university" either.


From the looks of it....

It appears as though Oracle80 and Eurobounce have gotten together to try and dispell Todd Pletcher's theory that the male colon can't produce children.

While my post total is only in the single digits here...and it's clear I haven't quite accumulated enough "board cred" to start telling people what to do.

But, with that said.....I'm going out on a limb and guessing that no one else here (with any sense of course) really cares about other posters personal lives.

But hey.....I could be wrong.

blackthroatedwind 12-11-2006 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

But hey.....I could be wrong.


You, my good friend, are never wrong.

ArlJim78 12-11-2006 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
My advice to all you people...


start drinking heavily.

Looks like no one took my advice.:confused:

The Bid 12-11-2006 09:58 PM

Jim, thats great advice on a Friday....Monday, maybe not so much


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