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Pants II 08-11-2016 07:33 AM

FOX is in the bag for the House of Saud and the cuckservatives.

They don't report bad news about the House of Saud. If they do it's during off hours and/or brushed over quickly as to not leave an imprint on the fragile minds of its viewers.

They won't get a pass. And they sure as hell don't represent Trump supporters.

Rudeboyelvis 08-11-2016 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1072818)
Where Did the Clinton Foundation End and the State Department Begin?
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/438834/

$1.4 million for two speeches, paid for by an ally of the Nigerian president...

$45 million in U.S. taxpayer money to build a luxury hotel in Haiti…

Extracting $500,000 donations from school-building charities...

More than $50 million in travel expenses in a decade...

Russians acquire a majority stake in Uranium One while paying Bubba $500,000 to speak...



But hey! Trump called for Hillary's assassination!

Not to worry..The FBI & DOJ have taken up the case:


OldDog 08-11-2016 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1072981)
Not to worry..The FBI & DOJ have taken up the case:

In the news:
Quote:

Early this year as the investigation into Clinton's private email server was in full swing, several FBI field offices approached the Justice Department asking to open a case regarding the relationship between the State Department and the Clinton Foundation, according to a law enforcement official. At the time, DOJ declined.
"Early this year." I wonder if that was before or after the tarmac summit? Either way, Lynch is just the Attorney General that a Clinton presidency will need.

Danzig 08-11-2016 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1072973)
Fox is for the most part the opposite side of the same coin. In the bag for the democrats: CNN, NBC & MSNBC, CBS, ABC, commonly known as main stream media.

i agree completely on the first line.
what of joe scarborough? only this week has he finally said trump is awful. his fawning over trump in their interviews the last year, with softball questions....they laughed about how easy the questions were.

anyway, I read media, so I don't know all the various hosts on those shows and who does what, other than reading about old morning joe.... but what of all that is available online? I'd have to say there are as many links in posts here to right weaning media vs left.

as for tv media-I think they're all awful, which is why I don't watch. the rush to be fast, instead of right. and the admission that trump was good for ratings, and them saying he'd been great for their bottom line.....that's just amazing.

Danzig 08-11-2016 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1072818)
Where Did the Clinton Foundation End and the State Department Begin?
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/438834/

$1.4 million for two speeches, paid for by an ally of the Nigerian president...

$45 million in U.S. taxpayer money to build a luxury hotel in Haiti…

Extracting $500,000 donations from school-building charities...

More than $50 million in travel expenses in a decade...

Russians acquire a majority stake in Uranium One while paying Bubba $500,000 to speak...



But hey! Trump called for Hillary's assassination!

Seems the state dept has become the new funnel for a spoils system, with ambassadorships going to big donors. There was someone named to that post in a south american country, and at the hearing for confirmation conceded he knew NOTHING about the country.

joeydb 08-11-2016 11:16 AM

Wikileaks' Assange Hints Murdered DNC Staffer Was Email-Leaker, Offers $20k Reward
 
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...0k-reward-info

Excerpt:

"The mysterious circumstances surrounding the death of 27-year-old Democratic-staffer Seth Rich (shot multiple times, and not robbed, at 420am near his home in Washington D.C., where no homicides have been reported within 1500 feet) have stirred Wikileaks founder Julian Assange to offer a $20,000 reward for information leading to a conviction. But it is Assange's comments during a Dutch TV interview that are most disturbing as he hinted that Rich - who was in charge of DNC voter expansion data - was the email-leaker and his death was a politically-motivated assassination."


jms62 08-11-2016 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1072994)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...0k-reward-info

Excerpt:

"The mysterious circumstances surrounding the death of 27-year-old Democratic-staffer Seth Rich (shot multiple times, and not robbed, at 420am near his home in Washington D.C., where no homicides have been reported within 1500 feet) have stirred Wikileaks founder Julian Assange to offer a $20,000 reward for information leading to a conviction. But it is Assange's comments during a Dutch TV interview that are most disturbing as he hinted that Rich - who was in charge of DNC voter expansion data - was the email-leaker and his death was a politically-motivated assassination."

What does this mean?

joeydb 08-11-2016 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1072995)
What does this mean?

Sounds like they were saying that his home was not in a high crime area as observed and recorded statistically by the police.

jms62 08-11-2016 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1072997)
Sounds like they were saying that his home was not in a high crime area as observed and recorded statistically by the police.

That is odd statement right... 1500 feet basically is down the block.

joeydb 08-11-2016 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1072998)
That is odd statement right... 1500 feet basically is down the block.

I agree it's odd, and statistics are not absolute anyway. If a plane crash happens tomorrow, the fact that it's been so long since the last one, or that it likely did not happen in the same place before, doesn't really tell us anything.

Also, the absence of recorded events is not the same as having them. Yeah, avoid high crime areas that DO have frequent crimes reported within a certain radius of your destination, but assuming that everything is OK due to a lack of data is not nearly as predictive.

Danzig 08-11-2016 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1072994)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...0k-reward-info

Excerpt:

"The mysterious circumstances surrounding the death of 27-year-old Democratic-staffer Seth Rich (shot multiple times, and not robbed, at 420am near his home in Washington D.C., where no homicides have been reported within 1500 feet) have stirred Wikileaks founder Julian Assange to offer a $20,000 reward for information leading to a conviction. But it is Assange's comments during a Dutch TV interview that are most disturbing as he hinted that Rich - who was in charge of DNC voter expansion data - was the email-leaker and his death was a politically-motivated assassination."


this is as legit as the bs about trump donating to nambla.
d.c. metropolitan pd says it was a robbery gone wrong...and that creep assange can't even say that this guy was a wikileaks provider.
my god, there are enough legit reasons to bitch about Clinton. this kind of crap is ridiculous.

jms62 08-11-2016 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1073001)
this is as legit as the bs about trump donating to nambla.

What is really odd and scary actually with the Internet is both sides are going to be constantly throwing out stuff like this. The scary part is SOME PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT. Dropping leaflets from the sky in the 21st century.

Danzig 08-11-2016 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1073004)
What is really odd and scary actually with the Internet is both sides are going to be constantly throwing out stuff like this. The scary part is SOME PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT. Dropping leaflets from the sky in the 21st century.

I know it. it's disturbing and disgusting....yet, I actually only found out about the nambla bs on here! had no idea that was a thing.

Danzig 08-11-2016 01:09 PM

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...r_of_isis.html

“But they wouldn’t talk about your language,” he told Hewitt, “and they do talk about my language, right?”

can't argue with that. but, trump does understand he's trying to get votes, not ratings, right?

and, may I remind trump, and everyone.....Obama didn't set the timeline for withdrawing from Iraq. he tried to extend the timeline, but Iraq wouldn't agree. and because of the agreement, created by bush, Obama had his hands tied.

everyone knows that, right? that's not based on opinion, but on fact.

mclem0822 08-11-2016 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1073015)
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...r_of_isis.html

“But they wouldn’t talk about your language,” he told Hewitt, “and they do talk about my language, right?”

can't argue with that. but, trump does understand he's trying to get votes, not ratings, right?

and, may I remind trump, and everyone.....Obama didn't set the timeline for withdrawing from Iraq. he tried to extend the timeline, but Iraq wouldn't agree. and because of the agreement, created by bush, Obama had his hands tied.

everyone knows that, right? that's not based on opinion, but on fact.

You cannot start hitting right wing kooks with very many of those, they cannot handle such foreign concepts. :rolleyes::D

OldDog 08-12-2016 01:14 PM

The Clintons released their income tax returns. They "earned" $10,745,378 last year. They generously made charitable contributions of nearly 10% of that.



So it IS true. Charity does begin at home.

And it ends there, too.

jms62 08-12-2016 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1073160)
The Clintons released their income tax returns. They "earned" $10,745,378 last year. They generously made charitable contributions of nearly 10% of that.



So it IS true. Charity does begin at home.

And it ends there, too.

How much does Trump give you think?

Rudeboyelvis 08-12-2016 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1073160)
The Clintons released their income tax returns. They "earned" $10,745,378 last year. They generously made charitable contributions of nearly 10% of that.



So it IS true. Charity does begin at home.

And it ends there, too.

So that was a whole 10% (which was a fraction of their skim) they put BACK into THEIR slush fund.

Modern-day Mother Teresa's...Both of 'em ;)

OldDog 08-12-2016 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1073161)
How much does Trump give you think?

To the Clinton Foundation?

OldDog 08-12-2016 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1073162)
So that was a whole 10% (which was a fraction of their skim) they put BACK into THEIR slush fund.

Modern-day Mother Teresa's...Both of 'em ;)

I gave 20% of my income to the OldDog Foundation For Bourbon Studies.

Rudeboyelvis 08-12-2016 01:36 PM

Desert Classic Charities gave 700,000.00 to the Clintons in 2015:

http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990...201506_990.pdf

In return they got 42K back.

A quick perusal of their *charitable giving* shows that 100% of their *donations* went back into their slush fund. What menschen.

jms62 08-12-2016 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1073163)
To the Clinton Foundation?

No overall. I am not a fan of this Clinton Foundation and wish it would be investigated however you are bashing them for giving 10 %. I think that is more than fair no?

Found this

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...49a7e29d0cf7a/

Rudeboyelvis 08-12-2016 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1073161)
How much does Trump give you think?

Does not matter if it is nothing. I'd take an honest miser over a dishonest Ponzi scheme coordinator any day.

Rudeboyelvis 08-12-2016 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1073164)
I gave 20% of my income to the OldDog Foundation For Bourbon Studies.

:D

Pants II 08-12-2016 01:40 PM

It's mostly income for speeches. Don't give a s.hit what they give they're career grifters.

Trump could not give a cent and actually take from charities and I'd still vote for him over a Clinton.

jms62 08-12-2016 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1073167)
Does not matter if it is nothing. I'd take an honest miser over a dishonest Ponzi scheme coordinator any day.

You know what is beautiful. Once when I said something negative about Trump I think it was about abortion. You accused me of slanderous statements and you asked for evidence. Yet you accuse someone of being a Ponzi scheme operator... lol. Wish you had the evidence to prove it cause I view it as a pay for play.

Pants II 08-12-2016 01:49 PM

I view it as the soft implementation of Sharia into the United States.

The Clintons turn a blind eye to radical Islamist terrorist groups and ramp up surveillance on white militias and Christian "extremists".

I expect if Hillary wins she'll have a few Wacos. She hates Christians 10x more than her Husband.

Rudeboyelvis 08-12-2016 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1073170)
You know what is beautiful. Once when I said something negative about Trump I think it was about abortion. You accused me of slanderous statements and you asked for evidence. Yet you accuse someone of being a Ponzi scheme operator... lol. Wish you had the evidence to prove it cause I view it as a pay for play.

Fair enough - I deserve that.

Replace Ponzi Scheme Coordinator with Bribery Scheme Coordinator.

jms62 08-12-2016 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1073173)
Fair enough - I deserve that.

Replace Ponzi Scheme Coordinator with Bribery Scheme Coordinator.

It really pisses me off that a supposed Public service job can be parlayed into a Billion dollar empire...

Pants II 08-12-2016 02:17 PM

Well if the voters continue being brain-dead sheep then you can expect The Clinton Foundation to be dwarfed by The Obama Initiative.

He's a better grifter than both Clintons and he will continue to prove it.

Danzig 08-12-2016 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1073164)
I gave 20% of my income to the OldDog Foundation For Bourbon Studies.

how do I join?

Danzig 08-12-2016 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1073174)
It really pisses me off that a supposed Public service job can be parlayed into a Billion dollar empire...

:tro:

I read once that upon retirement, other politicians questioned how successful the retiring pol was really, since he left no richer than he was when he'd arrived. it's appalling.

and it seems one of the reasons the gop field was so huge, is losing candidates quite often parlay that run into high speaking fees, book sales, etc. some of them had to know they had no shot, but it was still a way to make money...and any debt they incur by running may not ever be paid. newt gingrich is still in debt from his last run, and has said he has no intention of ever paying it.

OldDog 08-12-2016 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1073180)
how do I join?

Send your cash contributions to

er

I'll get back to you.

OldDog 08-12-2016 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1073166)
No overall. I am not a fan of this Clinton Foundation and wish it would be investigated however you are bashing them for giving 10 %. I think that is more than fair no?

My friend DB said it best:

Ford Foundation: gives away Henry Ford's money.
Gates Foundation: gives away Bill Gates' money.
Clinton Foundation: gives Clintons money.




I'm not going to parse over who gives more money. Maybe Trump's a miser. Maybe not. He should prove the generosity that he brags about.

What really gets a rise out of me about this "charitable giving" is that libs think it's fine and dandy that the Clintons gave to their own charity, but many of those same people think that my donations to my church and its charities shouldn't be deductible as charitable contributions. I KNOW where my contributions go and the good that they do.

jms62 08-12-2016 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1073201)
My friend DB said it best:

Ford Foundation: gives away Henry Ford's money.
Gates Foundation: gives away Bill Gates' money.
Clinton Foundation: gives Clintons money.




I'm not going to parse over who gives more money. Maybe Trump's a miser. Maybe not. He should prove the generosity that he brags about.

What really gets a rise out of me about this "charitable giving" is that libs think it's fine and dandy that the Clintons gave to their own charity, but many of those same people think that my donations to my church and its charities shouldn't be deductible as charitable contributions. I KNOW where my contributions go and the good that they do.

Every week before thanksgiving I buy $500 bucks worth of turkeys and deliver them to my local food bank. When they ask me if I want a receipt I always say no . I do it because I want to and the feeling I get. Seeing a family walk inwhile I walk out is worth 1000 times the cost. Those that give and expect a tax writeoff are in my opinion are not doing it from the heart. I may be the only person in world that feels this way but so be it.

bigrun 08-12-2016 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1073209)
Every week before thanksgiving I buy $500 bucks worth of turkeys and deliver them to my local food bank. When they ask me if I want a receipt I always say no . I do it because I want to and the feeling I get. Seeing a family walk inwhile I walk out is worth 1000 times the cost. Those that give and expect a tax writeoff are in my opinion are not doing it from the heart. I may be the only person in world that feels this way but so be it.

:tro::tro::tro:

Danzig 08-12-2016 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1073201)
My friend DB said it best:

Ford Foundation: gives away Henry Ford's money.
Gates Foundation: gives away Bill Gates' money.
Clinton Foundation: gives Clintons money.




I'm not going to parse over who gives more money. Maybe Trump's a miser. Maybe not. He should prove the generosity that he brags about.

What really gets a rise out of me about this "charitable giving" is that libs think it's fine and dandy that the Clintons gave to their own charity, but many of those same people think that my donations to my church and its charities shouldn't be deductible as charitable contributions. I KNOW where my contributions go and the good that they do.

Whoever says charity shouldnt be deductible is simply daft. That is crazy.

Rudeboyelvis 08-14-2016 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1072910)
Once you remind yourself that the media are Democrat Operatives With Bylines it all makes sense. Remember the Democrat candidate who said during his campaign to bring a gun to a knife fight?

HGH Boy inadvertently spills the beans on CNN being in the bag for Clinton

https://twitter.com/sweetatertot2/st...330944/video/1

Wikileaks reveal Google's direct engagement with Hillary Clinton campaign

https://twitter.com/SpecialKMB1969/s...080321/photo/1

Rudeboyelvis 08-14-2016 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1073529)
HGH Boy inadvertently spills the beans on CNN being in the bag for Clinton

https://twitter.com/sweetatertot2/st...330944/video/1

Wikileaks reveal Google's direct engagement with Hillary Clinton campaign

https://twitter.com/SpecialKMB1969/s...080321/photo/1


Rudeboyelvis 08-15-2016 09:03 AM

Add Apple, Twitter, Google, and Instagram to the list...

http://observer.com/2016/08/tech-com...-defeat-trump/


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