do you really think the cops on the street are the ones directing what happens? or do you suppose that perhaps the mayor gets a call, he calls the chief, and the officers on the street are given express orders....i'm figuring it's the latter.
the street cops and beat cops and sod's don't decide when to move on protesters.
my father was a policeman in d.c. for 20 years, and was at countless protests-and riots as well. he didn't decide when and where to do things, just like soldiers don't choose their plans of attack.

so, if you have a problem with how the police handle things, don't blame the peons, blame the brass.

edit~i saw riots post where she quotes the mayor of boston-helps prove my point.

why is it that people say 'if you don't like it here, leave' when someone is critical of something, but they have a different opinion...but when they side with a protest, by god those protesters have every right to bitch?


i wish people could be more consistent in their 'beliefs'. either the constitution is the law of the land, or its not. we all know that there is a right to free speech, and a right to assemble. it would be nice if people didn't just confer that right when they are in agreement with those who are exercising that right.

i see this view expressed in letters to the editor, hear it in conversation, and i see it on this board.

OCCUPY HERBSTREIT





http://occupyherbstreit.tumblr.com/

I have modified my platform. All entities must pay taxes there will be NO SUCH THING AS TAX EXEMPT. We will cut Not For Profits a break but still they use our resources and they need to pitch in.

they should tax all churches. they don't use all their money for charitable purposes. only what they can show as charitable should be tax free, just like the rest of us.
religion is a business, just like other businesses. they make money, or they close.

Well it would be wise to break up any sizable group and that is one that helps but at the same time hurts the globalist agenda.

I'll post a link in the police state about the government listing Ron Paul supporters as radical extremists.

It's a pattern. They would prefer us to be alone, defeated, and dependent on them...the pimps in modern day Babylon.

Hey, Protesters: What About Solyndra?


"If the Wall Street protesters are really mad about taxpayers subsidizing millionaires and billionaires, than they should bring the house down on the Obama administration for subsidizing a risky investment made by a billionaire friend of the president. But so far we haven't heard a peep from the protesters about it.
Time to speak up and shout out, or shut up and go home." :tro:


Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2...#ixzz1atdDMYsR

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/15/bu...s.html?_r=1&hp

And the above complete disconnect with reality is why OWS is growing and will not go away before the next election cycle.

BTW: "Financial services" = imaginary products. No wonder we're screwed. We sell ethereal, fictional "products", not real "things" that actual people manufacture, that require materials, factories, skills.

Now here come's the focus and gravitas the flea party was lacking. :zz:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011...reet-movement/

So the Tea Party is breaking up?:eek:

Not in Mayor Emanuel's Chicago.

They don't play the OWS game. I suppose a misdemeanor park fine range between $200 and $300 in Chicago so the city will end up coveting the protesters' money for voicing their desire to covet other people's money. How ironic is that? :tro:

Hint to the protesters: A shower, shave and haircut may be the holy grail/missing link to finding a job paying more than single digits an hour. Hope you enjoyed your stay and come back real soon. Maybe next time they'll take you to Cook County Jail. It'll be like an amusement park visit with plenty of rides and games of chance available.

http://www.suntimes.com/8232448-417/...rant-park.html

Yeah! Here they are, actual Chicago protesters after their release - YUCK! Filthy hippies ...


Or dirty Nobel Prize winning Economist Joseph Stiglitz at the protests:


Or these filthy, unshaven protesting physicans:


Or these disgusting nurses:

Well, okay - I can absolutely support that! :tro:

When I say, "love it or leave it", I'm addressing people here who are quite angry that other people in the country have the democratic right and freedoms to do exactly as they wish, against the beliefs of the person I'm addressing.

A ginned-up non-controversy by a desperate Faux News?

Yawn. Here, read this for the real non-story facts: http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/0...oan-guarantee/

Our major media is incompetent and lazy. Last night on Channel 18 NBC here in Lexington, 11:00 news, they had a story about "Busy day in Occupy Wall Street", then talked about 500 protesters were arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge, and they showed the video from NBC affiliate files for that. Um ... that happened 2 weeks ago. That is how grossly incompetent the media is. One of the lead stories was completely false (on a day when OWS went international, no less, and there were riots overseas associated with it)

Occupy Wall Street is a movement being covered in depth on YouTube, in blog sites like Daily Kos, on Twitter and Facebook, and then accurately and thoroughly in NON-AMERICAN media like Al Jazeera and Russian Television.

American Media Sucks, and they are really unhappy this OWS thing has gone around them, and doesn't need them to "frame a story" and tell the sheep what to think.

I love it when you get saucy,Rita.

Oh Rita.....can you describe he type of undergarments you wear?



Do you prefer they are made of aluminum or Kevlar for strength,yet keeping weight to a minimum?

Just one more question,Rita?



When your undergarments have lived their useful life...do you fashion them into main sails for tall ships as a source of income?

Rita?


Ya there?





Anyhoo, don't know if you knew...but I was filming from behind you at Mickey D's the other day when EasyBake was debating you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nNbi...eature=related

Was her technique upsetting to you?

It’s a shame that on the day the MLK statue was unveiled the lead story on news stations here was coverage of the couple thousand camped out in a park singing woe is me.

The fact we have a sitting President and a leading candidate from the opposing party who are both African American and how far we've come since segregated fountains/schools etc. would have made for a great story. Sad that opportunity was missed. At least MLK must be looking down with a smile on his face.

:rolleyes:


It's sad people have a problem with protesting wall street and the government.

Sad many of those protesters don't realize or can't deal with the fact the sitting President has spent $100's of billions if not trillions bailing out Wall Street, well not all of Wall Street just the losers, under the guise supporting failure would produce jobs. Even going so far as saying SOME of Wall Street 'is too big to fail' :zz:

And move their protest to publicly owned land, say the White House lawn.

the last president bailed out the banks and wall street, just an FYI. Eventhough Congressman Obama and all the dems and republicans backed the idea.

Obama's stimulus was different, and in my opinion, worse.

and why do you think the protesters are liberal? A lot of what they protest is also similar to the tea party goals.

I think Bush's bailout was worse as it opened the door for Obama's. I don't think all the protesters are liberal but think the majority are and I certainly agree with them on several points, bailouts being one of them. Camping in a park isn’t going to change anything much less anything in Washington or on Wall Street. 99% of the rest of America, including me, not protesting but working doesn’t owe them a damn thing. They need to personally get involved in their chosen issue. If it be feeding the poor, join a soup kitchen. If it be healthcare for all, go to school and donate your services. If it be the free enterprise system, get involved in the socialist or communist parties. Live and let live. And if you can't deal with that pitch a tent in a national park and fire up a joint. Oops forget that last suggestion as there are government regulations against that.

Seriously? I can't believe you just said that. The WS bailout is the main thing OWS is all about. And you say "they don't realize"? Of course they realize. It's what they are protesting. It's why they are occupying.

Duh.

The OWS crowd is not "pro-Dem", or "pro-Obama". It is not tied to one political party.

Dell: I beg of you, watch a news show, read a newspaper. I have no idea where you get your "news", but it's obviously located under a very heavy rock. Please stop posting about things you are completely clueless about. It's sad to watch. Every single one of those OWS protesters know more about our government and what's happening in this country than you do.

For god's sake, those protesters have been protesting for a month now, protesting the Wall Street bailouts, and you come on here and say they are unawares of it?

Geeshus.

Seriously?

After yesterday, when protests over same were not only in 165 cities in America, but across the world, with riots in Europe?

That's exactly what they are doing.

God help this country. Coach is right.

How many registered republicans, like you are there protesting? You may just be part of the tenth of the one percenters and I'm so appreciative of that. BTW How's that Nazi and Communist parties joining the protest going? Heard Obama gave a shout out to them! :eek: :zz::wf

You are so clueless your right to vote should be taken away. It's not your opinions, you can hold any opinion you want, it's that you are entirely fact-free when you form them. You talk actual fantasy, made up nonsense. And you are proud of it.

Have you seen the flying unicorns of liberalism down there? Shame the protesters don't clean up after them, and our tax dollars have to! Obama sucks!

It's obvious you have a computer: try watching Al Jazeera English, or even reading Google news?

Geeshus, help this country.

Quinnipiac poll release today:
Poor Mayor Bloomberg. That puts him on the opposite side of public opinion, having NYC policemen charge the protesters and tourists in Times Square with horses and push them over, step on them, this weekend.

Try reading something other than Huffypoop or not ending in .org

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011...reet-movement/

Except for the fact they are on private property. If the landowner corporation agrees to let them stay then I'm also fine with it.

I'd suggest a homeless charity buy tents with signs attached protesting Homelessness and set up all over Central Park. It's beautiful there.

Yes, that's a pretty big rock :rolleyes:

Well, no, they were in Times Square. As the sentence said. And the "private property" of the park has a deed for public use.

This will go over Dell's head, as I'm sure he has no idea who "We are The 53%" started by Erik Eriksson of Red State are (the point of the 5th panel in the comic), but what the heck, Tom Tomorrow is hilarious ...

rolling and laughing!!





you tell 'em Rita!!

Have to give you credit,Rita.




You are every bit as good as Dahla is in ignoring me.

http://www.denverpost.com/commented/...rce=commented-

Losing some steam here as things get cooler.

In NY they are working with local churches, union halls, etc. where they can stay safe out of the cold, and work out of there for short shifts of protesting.

They can't stay outside, they'll get hypothermia.

Although I guess that will draw attention to the homeless we normally let die in the cold every year across the country.

Thankfully, at least in the US, it's a very small number. In Chicago there are more people murdered in a day than the homeless who die of hypothermia in a year. Of course Chicago does an excellent job with warming shelters and actually going out and finding the homeless.

I hope the millions and millions who receive heating and housing subsidies in this country are appreciative.

Compared to the rest of the world we should be proud!

While a majority of the poor in the world battle starvation, the poor in the US battle obesity.

Again, sometimes one needs to stop and smell the roses. We are blessed/lucky to live in this country, (especially the poor).

Go ahead and post where you got that stat from.

Dell let me help you out on this one ....

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts10002906.aspx