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Hickory Hill Hoff 03-13-2008 09:53 PM

Porn.....the "safe" answer

SCUDSBROTHER 03-13-2008 09:55 PM

Original statement has been up for 2 hours,and not 1 man has said it's untrue.They may not like that it's true,but it's true.

Cajungator26 03-13-2008 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
LOL..They are satisfied with porn.It's natural for men to enjoy more than one partner,and it's natural for women to hate them for it.

"YOUHATEMECUZUAIN'TME"

Yes, I know... I don't hate them for it, by the way. I've got no problem with men going to strip clubs and watching pornos. When they go as far as doing the actual deed, then there is a problem. I just expect more out of someone. Probably why I'm single... ;)

Danzig 03-13-2008 10:00 PM

apparently my husband is 'unnatural'.
scuds, i didn't know you were married.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-13-2008 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
apparently my husband is 'unnatural'.
scuds, i didn't know you were married.

I'm not married,but I was in a closed relationship.I went 5 years.That's my limit(to have sex with just 1 woman.)I don't know how anyone with testicle can go longer.NOW, I see guys (who very much love their woman)
totally lose any control when they see a certain ass or whatever.I tell them whatever they do,don't tell their woman.She will not understand it one bit.These are people that are close.They f'n talk for hours about God knows what.They love each other.He pastes that he loves her all over the place. ..O.K.,but still he saw a certain ass the other day.He followed it.Got her number.She said he's cute ,but she doesn't know him.He waited a day.He says he will wait 3 days,and call her.I don't expect her to turn him down.O.K.? That's reality.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-13-2008 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
apparently my husband is 'unnatural'.
scuds, i didn't know you were married.

ATYPICAL GENTLEMAN,but then again you have firepower there at the house.That helps keep him structured.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-13-2008 10:52 PM

This woman that Obama is married to...She is the opposite of wild.She is very smart,regimented,etc.etc.,and I would be very surprised if the guy has been faithful to somebody like that for their whole marriage.There is no way a woman that one dimensional could satisfy that guy.So,don't be surprised if that were to ever come out.I am sure it's there.I just heard she is in bed by 8:30 every night.They've been married 15 years.I give it very low odds that he has just been with her since their '92 marriage.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-14-2008 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Yes, I know... I don't hate them for it, by the way. I've got no problem with men going to strip clubs and watching pornos. When they go as far as doing the actual deed, then there is a problem. I just expect more out of someone. Probably why I'm single... ;)

Yea,I think that the least they can get by with is what you mentioned.The "actual deed" is more random.Has to do with a lot of factors.This guy I was talking about is not typical.I don't think a woman has ever turned him down.I think he said one blonde did,but he qualified it somehow,and I didn't understand what he said.I would think he would have come across some real pretty religious girl,but maybe not.Maybe they would not show their ass off as much.

sumitas 03-14-2008 12:41 AM

It is unfortunate that the personal life of Spitzer was made an issue.

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-14-2008 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
It is unfortunate that the personal life of Spitzer was made an issue.

He made it that way....I don't cut him any slack, always been a jerk in my opinion and got what's comin' to him.

Danzig 03-14-2008 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
It is unfortunate that the personal life of Spitzer was made an issue.

a shame all criminals can't use that defense. but judge, i killed her at my house-it was personal.:rolleyes:

Mortimer 03-14-2008 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
apparently my husband is 'unnatural'.
scuds, i didn't know you were married.


At 350 pounds I ain't exactly wonderin' why.

sumitas 03-14-2008 11:47 AM

There is clearly a double standard in this country. Wealthy men are expected to have women on the side because they can afford them. Men of average means are expected to remain with one woman and the kids because that is all he can afford.

At Mitterand's funeral who was by his wife's side ? His mistress.

ArlJim78 03-14-2008 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
It is unfortunate that the personal life of Spitzer was made an issue.

unfortunate for him yeah, that in his personal life he broke the laws that he was sworn to uphold and enforce.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-14-2008 12:19 PM

It's about as hypocritical as you can get.It would be like me complaining about the use of torture,and then me turning around and putting my lil red minpin in the ring to dogfight.He would love it dearly(until he got bitten one time-that's another lil hypocrite.)

sumitas 03-14-2008 02:28 PM

Another example of government intrusion into the personal lives of people. These are consenting adults entered into a business agreement.

It's a shame government needs to legislate morality for consenting adults, imo.

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-14-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Another example of government intrusion into the personal lives of people. These are consenting adults entered into a business agreement.

It's a shame government needs to legislate morality for consenting adults, imo.

You know, I really don't care about that.....the guy is such an A-hole and to think he had a major hand in some of NYRA's problems, well.....I'm happy with what's happened to him! :)

GenuineRisk 03-14-2008 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Another example of government intrusion into the personal lives of people. These are consenting adults entered into a business agreement.

It's a shame government needs to legislate morality for consenting adults, imo.

Yeah, but sumitas, Spitzer targeted prostitution rings during his career. Pretty hypocritical to patronize the very same industry he went after, don't you think?

brianwspencer 03-14-2008 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
Yeah, but sumitas, Spitzer targeted prostitution rings during his career. Pretty hypocritical to patronize the very same industry he went after, don't you think?

Exactly. And I'm of the school of thought that prostitution should be legal anyway.

But the whole point is that if we believe that a private act between two consenting adults like this should be legal, there is a time to have that conversation.

There is a case to be made that it shouldn't be illegal anyway, but the fact remains that for the time being, it is illegal, and even Spitzer has to play by the rules.

I think that sucks to lose your career over something like this, but doing a retroactive reinterpretation of the law doesn't do anyone any good.

GenuineRisk 03-14-2008 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Original statement has been up for 2 hours,and not 1 man has said it's untrue.They may not like that it's true,but it's true.

News flash, Scuds- women cheat too. We just don't get caught as often. ;)

I'm with Jamie- we know you look, and I'm okay with it- we like to look, too. But if you don't want to be monogamous, don't get married. Or heck, get married, but be straightforward about the ground rules. Scuds, you might find a woman out there who's happy to let you stray as long as you're happy with her straying, too. Would that be okay with you? Because, you know, I've always thought guys had a double standard when it comes to sleeping with people other than their significant others and I'd love to be proved wrong. :)

Thought- why is it that two people having sex and one getting paid for it is illegal, but two people both getting paid for having sex and that experience being videotaped and sold to outside parties for their viewing is perfectly legal?

brianwspencer 03-14-2008 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
Thought- why is it that two people having sex and one getting paid for it is illegal, but two people both getting paid for having sex and that experience being videotaped and sold to outside parties for their viewing is perfectly legal?

Some thoughts on this, because I wondered the same thing the other day:

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/colb/20050810.html

pgardn 03-14-2008 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
ATYPICAL GENTLEMAN,but then again you have firepower there at the house.That helps keep him structured.

There ya go.

Every man must have to cheat
because you want it outside the
household so bad. Dont have to be
that way.

Had relations with one woman for 21 years.
And still counting. Im just not hurtin, so I
dont get you. But I empathize. I can understand.
I just dont need it myself. What the hell is odd
about being with one woman? I dont understand
why you think this is so odd.

I guess I got all the meandering out of the system
before I was married. And I realized how good
I have it. Helps to be picky I guess. Maybe just
dumb luck.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-14-2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
News flash, Scuds- women cheat too. We just don't get caught as often. ;)

I'm with Jamie- we know you look, and I'm okay with it- we like to look, too. But if you don't want to be monogamous, don't get married. Or heck, get married, but be straightforward about the ground rules. Scuds, you might find a woman out there who's happy to let you stray as long as you're happy with her straying, too. Would that be okay with you? Because, you know, I've always thought guys had a double standard when it comes to sleeping with people other than their significant others and I'd love to be proved wrong. :)

Thought- why is it that two people having sex and one getting paid for it is illegal, but two people both getting paid for having sex and that experience being videotaped and sold to outside parties for their viewing is perfectly legal?

LOL...You think men want to get married..LOL....

You're right about the double standard.The same guy (who said he chased a girl,and got her #) also told me his girlfriend would never cheat on him,because she knows he would leave her.He says she knows he is too jealous,and gets upset if she just looks at another guy in a restaurant.I'll tell ya the problem..o.k. Women are on him like flies on poo.So, women can't control falling for the cute badboy.It's not right for him to be that way,but why would he have to think differently? I can 100% guarantee you his girlfriend will never leave him.Ain't gunna happen.He could cheat each week on that girl,and she would cry,but never want to break up with him.She can't control herself.The reason I told him to never tell her is because he will have to listen to what he calls "trippin."He said he threatened to leave her a week ago because he was tired of her trippin'.Hey,he isn't gunna listen to me if I tell him not to cheat.I've told him not to,but mainly I have told him to wear a wrapper,and I know he won't.When somebody has control of people with looks,personality or whatever,it's real hard to get them to not be an ass hole..almost impossible.


Do I think women should be able to cheat like men do ? Yes,but (like I said) women seem to be more attracted to guys who are totally against women ever having another partner.You say that men should not marry if they don't want to be monogamous.I think most men marry thinking they do want to be monogamous.They can't though.Whether it be porn or actual sex,they want to look at other women.They aren't wired to just like one woman.

Danzig 03-14-2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
LOL...You think men want to get married..LOL....

You're right about the double standard.The same guy (who said he chased a girl,and got her #) also told me his girlfriend would never cheat on him,because she knows he would leave her.He says she knows he is too jealous,and gets upset if she just looks at another guy in a restaurant.I'll tell ya the problem..o.k. Women are on him like flies on poo.So, women can't control falling for the cute badboy.It's not right for him to be that way,but why would he have to think differently? I can 100% guarantee you his girlfriend will never leave him.Ain't gunna happen.He could cheat each week on that girl,and she would cry,but never want to break up with him.She can't control herself


Do I think women should be able to cheat like men do ? Yes,but (like I said) women seem to be more attracted to guys who are totally against women ever having another partner.You say that men should not marry if they don't want to be monogamous.I think most men marry thinking they do want to be monogamous.They can't though.Whether it be porn or actual sex,they want to look at other women.They aren't wired to just like one woman.

i think that's incorrect. i also think that because you can't or won't be monogamous, you automatically assume that it is the case for all men. some women cheat, so do some men. but that doesn't mean all men or all women do-thankfully.

Mortimer 03-14-2008 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
News flash, Scuds- women cheat too. We just don't get caught as often. ;)

I'm with Jamie- we know you look, and I'm okay with it- we like to look, too. But if you don't want to be monogamous, don't get married. Or heck, get married, but be straightforward about the ground rules. Scuds, you might find a woman out there who's happy to let you stray as long as you're happy with her straying, too. Would that be okay with you? Because, you know, I've always thought guys had a double standard when it comes to sleeping with people other than their significant others and I'd love to be proved wrong. :)

Thought- why is it that two people having sex and one getting paid for it is illegal, but two people both getting paid for having sex and that experience being videotaped and sold to outside parties for their viewing is perfectly legal?


^^^ Doorknob candy.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-14-2008 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i think that's incorrect. i also think that because you can't or won't be monogamous, you automatically assume that it is the case for all men. some women cheat, so do some men. but that doesn't mean all men or all women do-thankfully.

Zig,if they have testicle,then they like looking at more than one naked woman.I am not saying they will have skin to skin,but they will try to find a replacement (like porn.) Men and women are very different,but men have to try to act like women want them to be.

GPK 03-14-2008 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
News flash, Scuds- women cheat too. We just don't get caught as often. ;)

I'm with Jamie- we know you look, and I'm okay with it- we like to look, too. But if you don't want to be monogamous, don't get married. Or heck, get married, but be straightforward about the ground rules. Scuds, you might find a woman out there who's happy to let you stray as long as you're happy with her straying, too. Would that be okay with you? Because, you know, I've always thought guys had a double standard when it comes to sleeping with people other than their significant others and I'd love to be proved wrong. :)

Thought- why is it that two people having sex and one getting paid for it is illegal, but two people both getting paid for having sex and that experience being videotaped and sold to outside parties for their viewing is perfectly legal?


Was that the look I saw in your eye last summer?;)

Mortimer 03-14-2008 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
News flash, Scuds- women cheat too. We just don't get caught as often. ;)

I'm with Jamie- we know you look, and I'm okay with it- we like to look, too. But if you don't want to be monogamous, don't get married. Or heck, get married, but be straightforward about the ground rules. Scuds, you might find a woman out there who's happy to let you stray as long as you're happy with her straying, too. Would that be okay with you? Because, you know, I've always thought guys had a double standard when it comes to sleeping with people other than their significant others and I'd love to be proved wrong. :)

Thought- why is it that two people having sex and one getting paid for it is illegal, but two people both getting paid for having sex and that experience being videotaped and sold to outside parties for their viewing is perfectly legal?


Guess which category she falls into.




:rolleyes:

Danzig 03-14-2008 06:47 PM

speaking of high dollar booty:


LONDON — Heather Mills is expected to be awarded a lump sum of $50 million to $60.6 million in her divorce battle with Paul McCartney — the sum originally offered by the former Beatle.

On top of the lump sum, which may be paid in installments, there will be annual maintenance payments for the couple’s daughter, Beatrice, which could be as much as $202,000.

Mortimer 03-14-2008 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Was that the look I saw in your eye last summer?;)


^^^ Suffers from sightssettoolowitis

Danzig 03-14-2008 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Was that the look I saw in your eye last summer?;)

probably a sty....:D

GPK 03-14-2008 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
probably a sty....:D


Love you too dear....

Danzig 03-14-2008 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Love you too dear....


lol

i had to kev, i HAD TO. don't get as many opportunities to mess with you, gotta get em when i can.

GPK 03-14-2008 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
lol

i had to kev, i HAD TO. don't get as many opportunities to mess with you, gotta get em when i can.


I understand Deb:D . Hope Tony and the kids are well:)

Danzig 03-14-2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
I understand Deb:D . Hope Tony and the kids are well:)

we're all ok, but it has been a rough week. tonys grandmother passed away tuesday. she was a great, great person-we named our daughter after her. so it's been a tough few days.

GPK 03-14-2008 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
we're all ok, but it has been a rough week. tonys grandmother passed away tuesday. she was a great, great person-we named our daughter after her. so it's been a tough few days.

Sorry to hear that babe. Will send some thoughts and prayers your way.

Mortimer 03-14-2008 07:10 PM

Ah love GCL tipping....don't you?

SCUDSBROTHER 03-14-2008 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
There ya go.

Every man must have to cheat
because you want it outside the
household so bad. Dont have to be
that way.

Had relations with one woman for 21 years.
And still counting. Im just not hurtin, so I
dont get you. But I empathize. I can understand.
I just dont need it myself. What the hell is odd
about being with one woman? I dont understand
why you think this is so odd.

I guess I got all the meandering out of the system
before I was married. And I realized how good
I have it. Helps to be picky I guess. Maybe just
dumb luck.

We all know you are atypical.Are you saying you have only been interested in looking at 1 woman for 21 years?No porn..No strip clubs....Tell the truth,cuz people will remember this.Why would I not question this.Couldn't this be what Spitzer had written a couple months ago(other than the exact 21 years.)

Cajungator26 03-14-2008 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Was that the look I saw in your eye last summer?;)

LMFAO :D

GPK 03-14-2008 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
LMFAO :D


Don't laugh...I saw the same look in your eye on the airport floor last summer:eek:


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