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BellamyRd. 12-14-2006 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
This is just not true at all. You can't be serious. Weis chose Notre Dame, because he went to college there. He could have been coaching at many NFL teams, he didn't want to.

nope, 100% accurate

BellamyRd. 12-14-2006 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
According to who? He was sought after by many teams, but he said he always wanted to coach at his alma mater.

wrong, he circulated his name throughout the NFL, no bites, none, zilch
so he left for college (2nd choice, or 33rd I suppose)

BellamyRd. 12-14-2006 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Okay, since you say so, I'm convinced. Especially since you are backing it up so well.

ha, it's common knowledge for anyone who follows the game even on a casual basis, I apologize for your lack of keeping up
it was mentioned numerous times on MNF, NFL Today, etc.
This is like 2-3 years removed now, please try and pay attention

Danzig 12-14-2006 09:15 PM

After failing to land one of the nation's leading college coaching candidates, Notre Dame signed one of the NFL's top assistants.



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Charlie Weis is the first Notre Dame alum to coach the Irish since 1963.
New England Patriots offensive coordinator Charlie Weis made it official Sunday night, becoming the first Notre Dame graduate to coach the team since Hugh Devore served as interim coach in 1963. Only Weis didn't play college football.

He signed with the Irish 12 days after Tyrone Willingham was fired and eight days after Notre Dame officials returned empty-handed after flying to Utah to meet with Utes coach Urban Meyer. Meyer signed with Florida instead.

Weis agreed to a six-year deal that will pay him $2 million a year, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports. His hiring ended an embarrassing two-week search by the Fighting Irish to find a coach for perhaps the most storied program in the nation.

The 48-year-old Weis arrived at the school Sunday night, just hours after the Patriots beat Cincinnati in Foxboro, Mass. Within an hour, he met with the players.

"Here's what we have to do. I believe there is a proper protocol, and right now, the most important thing is that I go talk to the players," Weis said. "So, tomorrow is our time for the press conference ... Let's do it tomorrow."

The players seemed excited about their new coach.

"It's nice to have a little bit of closure and know we have a coach and know what kind of system we're going to have next year," offensive guard Bob Morton said. "It's a good night for Notre Dame."

Weis told the players he'll be around as much as possible, but would be staying with the Patriots through the playoffs.

"He told us to have fun, finish things off right with our exams, have fun at the bowl game, enjoy break and come back ready to go," offensive tackle Mark LeVoir said.

In Foxboro after the Super Bowl champions' 35-28 win, quarterback Tom Brady told CBS, "Even though he's leaving I think everyone's going to enjoy these last few games and hopefully we send him out the right way."

Weis, who graduated in 1978, will attempt to restore Notre Dame to the powerhouse program it was when he attended the university as an undergraduate while Ara Parseghian and Dan Devine coached the Fighting Irish.

The door for him to return to Notre Dame opened when Willingham was fired on Nov. 30 after posting a 21-15 record over three seasons.

Willingham, who coached at Stanford before going to South Bend, returned to the Pac-10 by accepting the job at Washington on Sunday night. Willingham will match up against his former team when Notre Dame visits Seattle next Sept. 24.

Weis has been the Patriots' offensive coordinator for the last five seasons, which included two Super Bowl championships.

His stock has risen with New England's success, but the Patriots' long playoff runs have hindered his attempt at a promotion. An NFL rule prohibits assistants from being hired while their teams are in the playoffs.

The New York Giants and Buffalo Bills interviewed Weis in January, but they hired other coaches before the Patriots won the Super Bowl. Weis could have faced the same problem this year, since an NFL team might have had to wait until after the Feb. 6 Super Bowl to hire him.

Weis nearly died in the summer of 2002 from complications of gastric bypass surgery, commonly known as stomach stapling. The coach said one of the reasons he underwent the procedure was to make himself more marketable to teams looking for a head coach

BellamyRd. 12-14-2006 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Wait, this can't be right.

what? that you're wrong...it usually always is:rolleyes:
see these other "top" programs have had trouble luring a coach too
but the media and other fans act like oh, oh this is not a primo gig
the Bama job ain't what it was~who on God's green Earth would want to
coach there, 2.2 million, top facilities, a team loaded for next season
with a top 15 recruiting class lined up? what fool would sign his death certificate to that dead-end, widow-maker of a vocation?

dr. fager 12-14-2006 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
what? that you're wrong...it usually always is:rolleyes:
see these other "top" programs have had trouble luring a coach too
but the media and other fans act like oh, oh this is not a primo gig
the Bama job ain't what it was~who on God's green Earth would want to
coach there, 2.2 million, top facilities, a team loaded for next season
with a top 15 recruiting class lined up? what fool would sign his death certificate to that dead-end, widow-maker of a vocation?

Top 15? This is killing them...and a few are now opening up their recruiting...not sure where you got your numbers.

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=9&c=14&yr=2007

BellamyRd. 12-14-2006 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Obviously a typo, he meant top 34.

a) it was well into the top 10 before Shula was fired and then they got some de-committs, or wait-and see who the coach will be, so they took them off the signed list, thus the lower ranking
b) it's subjective, if you go how "scouts" ranks as gospel truth, it varies widely according to publication

back to Weis, an interview doesn't count as a bit, an offer does!

dr. fager 12-14-2006 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
a) it was well into the top 10 before Shula was fired and then they got some de-committs, or wait-and see who the coach will be, so they took them off the signed list
b) it's subjective, if you go how "scouts" ranks as gospel truth, it varies widely according to publication

back to Weis, an interview doesn't count as a bit, an offer does!

It is...rivals has them at 19...they haven't had any decommits yet that I know of but a pretty good LB/DL is visiting PSU soon.

timmgirvan 12-14-2006 10:28 PM

DrFager: thanks for that link to Scout.....It's good to see my boys in there at #8...with highest ranking quality of recruits(4.40) in the Nation! Rebuilding...HAH!

timmgirvan 12-14-2006 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
Ok, The Jets...winners of Super Bowl III, and only #III
and who was the MVP of that game? and where did he attend college?

I know this one!! Me? Me? OK...the Jets fan first!!:(

Cannon Shell 12-14-2006 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
I know, but I like to stir up trouble, why do you think I picked him?
Maybe Dennis Green? hes not doing so hot out in Zona.:D

Dennis Green not eligible to coach at Alabama, nor is Ty Willingham, Art Shell, Herm Edwards,etc.

Coach Pants 12-14-2006 10:43 PM

They could be orange for all I care, it wouldn't change the fact that they suck.


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