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helicopter11 03-09-2014 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 968894)
Agree. No huge bias. Race 1 and 7 were won from well of the pace.

I was being sarcastic. There was an inside speed bias. Mike Smith even commented on it after the 7th race. Yes, Sahara Sky did win from off the pace but that just made his win more impressive then it was. Likewise with WTC in the Big Cap.

The fact that the San Felipe and the Big Cap was won wire to wire at a wickedly fast pace and not a single horse closed off that is insane. If you looked at the rest of the horses at the back of the field in both races, they looked like they were the ones going :22.5 and 1:09 in a route race.

helicopter11 03-09-2014 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 968899)
I'd be careful about dismissing California Chrome. Yesterday was his 3rd straight big effort.

If that was his 3rd straight big effort, isnt that more reason to bet against him the SA derby?

RockHardTen1985 03-09-2014 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 968897)
Race one winner was never farther than 3.5 lengths back while contesting a 21.68, 44.38 pace. Race 7 was a freak show and possibly the best ride by a jockey this year. They certainly made the track fast as they always do for Game On Dude. Home Cooking just like they tried to get away with Breeders Cup until Owners and Trainers pitched a fit after the first day. One good thing that came out of it is California Chrome will be grossly over bet on Derby day. Also I was just looking at the selections thread. Nice Score there Rock.

Fair enough, and Thanks!

pmayjr 03-09-2014 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 968944)
If that was his 3rd straight big effort, isnt that more reason to bet against him the SA derby?

I think he's eligible to have a good SA Derby. He did yesterday what Cairo Prince did in the Holy Bull- Smashed a mediocre field. But yeah curious to see how he does vs better

ateamstupid 03-09-2014 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 968944)
If that was his 3rd straight big effort, isnt that more reason to bet against him the SA derby?

Jim was talking about the Kentucky Derby.

Calzone Lord 03-09-2014 10:34 PM

Nice avatar.

Didn't get much better than this in like 1997: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf9FzEmt4mM

cantknockthehustle 03-10-2014 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 969054)
Nice avatar.

Didn't get much better than this in like 1997: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf9FzEmt4mM

I always felt this was the song that proved Big's greatness. He showed an additional kind of delivery here, giving up his typical slow conversational style for a more rapid flow. He switched it up to keep pace with Bone Thugs and Harmony, and while doing so beat them at their own game. I read once he felt pressure prior to recording this song because he didnt know how successful he would be at that style. I'd say he did just fine.

pmayjr 03-10-2014 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 969034)
Jim was talking about the Kentucky Derby.

Has Art Sherman already declared that CC will train up to the Kentucky Derby?

Danzig 03-10-2014 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr (Post 969058)
Has Art Sherman already declared that CC will train up to the Kentucky Derby?

no. he may enter the santa anita derby.


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