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SOREHOOF 12-19-2012 03:36 PM

A lot of people on here know nothing about guns. That is obvious. There is a world of difference between an automatic firearm ( banned since the 1930's. available only with an extremely expensive Federal license that is extremely hard to obtain even with the cleanest background and a very convincing reason to need one, not to mention the firearm itself being extremely expensive and not easy to obtain,or on the black market where people don't generally check the local laws), and a semi-automatic firearm. There seems to be a lot of disinformation about gun shows also, many thanks to the state run media and ignorant or lying politicians. A background check is required at a gun show when the seller is not a private citizen. Most of the people selling guns at shows own stores or are licensed dealers who do require background checks. The term assault weapon was hijacked by anti-2nd Amendment politicians who wanted maximum fear factor. A true assault weapon would be fully automatic. The people of America are so easily duped it makes me sick.

jms62 12-19-2012 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF (Post 907582)
A lot of people on here know nothing about guns. That is obvious. There is a world of difference between an automatic firearm ( banned since the 1930's. available only with an extremely expensive Federal license that is extremely hard to obtain even with the cleanest background and a very convincing reason to need one, not to mention the firearm itself being extremely expensive and not easy to obtain,or on the black market where people don't generally check the local laws), and a semi-automatic firearm. There seems to be a lot of disinformation about gun shows also, many thanks to the state run media and ignorant or lying politicians. A background check is required at a gun show when the seller is not a private citizen. Most of the people selling guns at shows own stores or are licensed dealers who do require background checks. The term assault weapon was hijacked by anti-2nd Amendment politicians who wanted maximum fear factor. A true assault weapon would be fully automatic. The people of America are so easily duped it makes me sick.

World of difference in that you need to pull the trigger for each shot of a semi-automatic? So you have a clip with 40 rounds, how hard is it to pull the trigger 40 times?

bigrun 12-19-2012 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF (Post 907582)
A lot of people on here know nothing about guns. That is obvious. There is a world of difference between an automatic firearm ( banned since the 1930's. available only with an extremely expensive Federal license that is extremely hard to obtain even with the cleanest background and a very convincing reason to need one, not to mention the firearm itself being extremely expensive and not easy to obtain,or on the black market where people don't generally check the local laws), and a semi-automatic firearm. There seems to be a lot of disinformation about gun shows also, many thanks to the state run media and ignorant or lying politicians. A background check is required at a gun show when the seller is not a private citizen. Most of the people selling guns at shows own stores or are licensed dealers who do require background checks. The term assault weapon was hijacked by anti-2nd Amendment politicians who wanted maximum fear factor. A true assault weapon would be fully automatic. The people of America are so easily duped it makes me sick.


An automatic weapon is a firearm that reloads itself and keeps firing until the trigger is released..Is that correct?..Is an assault weapon auto or semi or both?..

Rudeboyelvis 12-19-2012 04:00 PM

FYI - a clip is what rounds of ammunition are shipped on for quick loading into a magazine. Guns don't have clips; they have magazines.

SOREHOOF 12-19-2012 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 907587)
An automatic weapon is a firearm that reloads itself and keeps firing until the trigger is released..Is that correct?..Is an assault weapon auto or semi or both?..

To the anti-gun politician an "assault weapon" is anything with a pistol grip including pistols. Some would include pump action shotguns. A true assault weapon , in this day and age, would be full auto or able to fire in 3 or 5 round bursts.

SOREHOOF 12-19-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 907586)
World of difference in that you need to pull the trigger for each shot of a semi-automatic? So you have a clip with 40 rounds, how hard is it to pull the trigger 40 times?

If you could pull the trigger 400 times a minute there wouldn't be much difference.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-19-2012 08:13 PM

well coach pants came back so i have to say a few things.this kid that did this terrible thing is dead.you can blame the parent that diddnt lock down these weapons.if someone is going to snap .its to late.banning guns wont stop anything. bad people will allways be able to get guns.they allways have.im for people who wish to keep or get in the future full auto weapons have a ffl license. a complete background check and mental eval..ie you in your past havent done anything ****ed up or been in any domestic situations. or been under psy care at any time. .now that should slim down things abit.. chicago has banned guns and its on par to be the worst in the country for homicide.. think about it..crazy is crazy.. you should have the right to get and fire and keep these type of weapons. if your sane..

Coach Pants 12-19-2012 10:14 PM

Hey hooves :tro:


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Last Friday was a beautiful day in the bluegrass state. I was on the road to Paducah that day taking in the scenery. So nice of a day that I decided to make a short detour through Land of the Lakes.

No radio, phone on silent, just me and my mediocre mid-size sedan and the open road. Pure bliss.

I was happy. Truly happy in a great mood and then I return to "the grid."
Look at my phone and there is a text from my gf about the shooting. Heart drops to the floor of the car and my whole mood changes.

"You have got to be "cuss word" kidding me!" So now I've got a 3 hour trip back home thinking about what I'm going to see on television. I cried. Uncontrollable tears for a good 10 minutes thinking about what happened. I thought of all of those innocent adults and children.


I get home and first thing I see on t.v. is Geraldo Rivera saying we need to have every person that enters a school searched by a police officer. I immediately turned off the television and made my decision that we'll never really know everything. There were much more important things for our media to discuss.

That's not real grieving, IMO. That's evil. That's an agenda...the day of the tragedy. That's when my issue of protecting people comes into play.

You see, this country is in financial ruin...just like most of Europe and the rest of the world.

The global economy has been flat for the past 4 years after the economic collapse. We're in a depression and can't face it and really see it...thanks mostly to JP Morgan Chase and their food stamp scam.

It cannot continue and that is why they want semi-autos. The only thing they will do is take the guns from law-abiding citizens. And if you don't comply you will be charged, convicted and lose your right to own any weapon, vote, etc.

Plenty of Americans make pretty decent wages working for gun companies, selling guns at shows, etc. They will lose those jobs and income.

That's simply not fair. It's not fair nor is it honest to ban semi-autos and use this tragedy to get it done. This happened with the Patriot Act after 9/11.

We never learn. I want you to learn. I'm not that smart. I'm just a good researcher.

The debt our government has accumulated is super degenerate "I suck dick for $10" sociopath street ho bad. No if's, ands or $20 butt sex about it.

Good evening, DT.

Don't hate, masturbate.

GBBob 12-19-2012 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 907498)
Americans still have faith in law enforcement. Well here is an authority figure asking relevant questions.

If you care about what happened to these children and adults in Sandy Hook then take 20 minutes of your time and give this a listen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=greuYvcMLDk

You are the real sheep...so pathetic that you lay that term on others while posting link after link to losers desperate for sheep like you. I thought Romney lost?...

Coach Pants 12-19-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 907637)
You are the real sheep...so pathetic that you lay that term on others while posting link after link to losers desperate for sheep like you. I thought Romney lost?...

So you believe the storyline that has changed everyday?

Good for you, Bob. If you tell enough whores that key makers for hotels might go out of business because they will make half as many.

Ridiculous joke for a ridiculous loser who kisses Chinese ass for money.

Honu 12-19-2012 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 907624)
well coach pants came back so i have to say a few things.this kid that did this terrible thing is dead.you can blame the parent that diddnt lock down these weapons.if someone is going to snap .its to late.banning guns wont stop anything. bad people will allways be able to get guns.they allways have.im for people who wish to keep or get in the future full auto weapons have a ffl license. a complete background check and mental eval..ie you in your past havent done anything ****ed up or been in any domestic situations. or been under psy care at any time. .now that should slim down things abit.. chicago has banned guns and its on par to be the worst in the country for homicide.. think about it..crazy is crazy.. you should have the right to get and fire and keep these type of weapons. if your sane..

He was an adult with Aspergers.....cant fix that. Miswired brains cant be fixed. He couldnt be forced to be in a home and he couldnt be commited or forced to take medication. Aspergers keeps people from having real feelings of empathy or sympathy. At the most they can have very structured lives that can help them function, but as I have seen my neighbors daughter with Autism go off when things change around her and she is only 6, she loses her shyte.

GBBob 12-20-2012 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 907638)
So you believe the storyline that has changed everyday?

Good for you, Bob. If you tell enough whores that key makers for hotels might go out of business because they will make half as many.

Ridiculous joke for a ridiculous loser who kisses Chinese ass for money.

You used to be relevant Coach..In between wishing ass cancer on Spenser and saying that NY deserved 9/11 you still had insightful, usually funny comments that made people think. Now you are just a paranoid fear monger who can't carry a conversation or debate without reverting to your usual laughable insults.

joeydb 12-20-2012 06:22 AM

It's extremely fortunate (for the government) that they would get a gun ban in before the inevitable financial collapse that is coming. :rolleyes:

Coach Pants 12-20-2012 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 907655)
You used to be relevant Coach..In between wishing ass cancer on Spenser and saying that NY deserved 9/11 you still had insightful, usually funny comments that made people think. Now you are just a paranoid fear monger who can't carry a conversation or debate without reverting to your usual laughable insults.

There is a thread asking for my return. The playalong thread is in my name from yesterday yet I am not relevant.

You're wrong, boy. You're just a typical bully liberal is all who doesn't have any balls.

It's no coincidence that you're a super liberal living in Chicago. So is miraja. Riot lived in Chicago for a time too. How are those gun control laws working out? Soon the suburbs of Chicago will have to be Carbondale to get away from the violence.

Nothing interesting or unique about you people.

Paranoia? If I were paranoid I wouldn't be on this forum where people with money and connections could post...especially not using a proxy. I'm not paranoid and I'm not scared. That's your side, punchy...hence the ban on everything you can think of for safety. Real dumb logic.

Have a good day, Bob.

Coach Pants 12-20-2012 08:14 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=JV3KYBS64R8

Is this guy really the medical examiner? :zz:


Now it could be grieving, shock, whatever. Who grieves like that?

It looks like they got this guy out of an insane asylum.


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