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Nascar1966 05-03-2011 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 773191)
Doesn't the C word get time in the brig around these parts?

Don't you have a toilet to clean?

herkhorse 05-03-2011 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 773200)
Don't you have a toilet to clean?

Yes he does, it's your mouth.

Danzig 05-03-2011 07:44 AM

i figured he was banned; sad to see he was not...but perhaps that'll change. he wasn't missed, and the posts above indicate why. i'm all for discussion and opposing points of view, but this is ridiculous.

Danzig 05-03-2011 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 773129)
Know thy enemy part II

Pakistani security forces allegedly helped Osama bin Laden evade American troops for almost 10 years, according to secret US government files.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-security.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42869844..._of_bin_laden/

dellinger63 05-03-2011 10:33 AM

Well no need to follow thru with Kerry's plan. That will save a few BILLION.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/02/wo...2pakistan.html

GBBob 05-03-2011 11:06 AM

Interesting read

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn....s-whereabouts/

Indian Charlie 05-03-2011 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 773262)

Yeah, real interesting.

The Pakistanis knew all right. The former Prime Minister of Pakistan publicly stated, on TV, that Bin Laden was already dead, back in 2007. David Frost was the interviewer.

She herself was killed a month later.

I'm sure everyone here will gladly choose to ignore this inescapable fact and continue the thoughtless cheerleading.

Go America, we killed a dead person!! YAY!!!

declansharbor 05-03-2011 11:36 AM

:rolleyes:

dellinger63 05-03-2011 12:19 PM

In a statement released today, Pakistan said it was deeply concerned over what it said was an “unauthorized” American raid that killed bin Laden. The government statement said the raid should not serve as a precedent for future US actions in the country.

“Neither any base nor facility inside Pakistan was used by the US forces, nor the Pakistan Army provided any operational or logistic assistance to these operations conducted by the U.S. forces,” the ministry said. “This event of unauthorized unilateral action cannot be taken as a rule."


We kill the world's most wanted man in their country and this is their thanks? Only thing worse than an enemy is an enemy that pretends to be your friend.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/interna...#ixzz1LJ4ep0Om

Dahoss 05-03-2011 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 773266)
Yeah, real interesting.

The Pakistanis knew all right. The former Prime Minister of Pakistan publicly stated, on TV, that Bin Laden was already dead, back in 2007. David Frost was the interviewer.

She herself was killed a month later.

I'm sure everyone here will gladly choose to ignore this inescapable fact and continue the thoughtless cheerleading.

Go America, we killed a dead person!! YAY!!!

So we're all idiots for thinking he was recently killed.....but you're smart for believing this because she was killed a month after saying it? What evidence do you have other than her brief statement in an interview that was never followed up?

I guess all of the attepts on her life prior to that were just a coincidence. Like when she said in September (2 months before she said that to Frost and 3 months before her death) that she knew her life was in danger. She survived an attempt on her life a month later.

Feel free to ignore that inescapable fact and put your Uncle Mo tinfoil hat on.

brianwspencer 05-03-2011 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 773286)
So we're all idiots for thinking he was recently killed.....but you're smart for believing this because she was killed a month after saying it? What evidence do you have other than her brief statement in an interview that was never followed up?

I guess all of the attepts on her life prior to that were just a coincidence. Like when she said in September (2 months before she said that to Frost and 3 months before her death) that she knew her life was in danger. She survived an attempt on her life a month later.

Feel free to ignore that inescapable fact and put your Uncle Mo tinfoil hat on.

:tro::zz:

Indian Charlie 05-03-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 773286)
So we're all idiots for thinking he was recently killed.....but you're smart for believing this because she was killed a month after saying it? What evidence do you have other than her brief statement in an interview that was never followed up?

I guess all of the attepts on her life prior to that were just a coincidence. Like when she said in September (2 months before she said that to Frost and 3 months before her death) that she knew her life was in danger. She survived an attempt on her life a month later.

Feel free to ignore that inescapable fact and put your Uncle Mo tinfoil hat on.

I just threw in the assassination to see if I got any reactions, but also to point out that she never really got much of a chance to explain that casual remark about OBL. However, your placing the tinfoil hat label on me changes nothing about the reality of this situation.

And no, I never called any of you idiots. Though, clearly that presence is here.

As for me providing more evidence. Why don't you provide evidence that he was just killed? Oh yeah, you cannot. All you can go on is the honest word from our government. Our government, the first and only government in human history that is totally honest and benevolent.

On the flip side, there is plenty of evidence supporting the idea that OBL has been dead for years. When you show me one credible shred of evidence, I'll supply you with a second one.

Oh yeah, they buried the body at sea without showing it to anyone. I guess you will be unable to provide that evidence.

I'm going to put my tinfoil hat back on (again, I never said she was killed to keep silent). I suggest you keep your head buried safely in the sand so that you don't have to do something uncomfortable, like examining this situation with a critical eye that is open to fact, not blind emotion.

Indian Charlie 05-03-2011 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 773287)
:tro::zz:

Is that the best you can do? If you cannot dispute what is presented with facts, mock it!!!

It's much easier to belittle an idea that goes against your belief than it is to examine the actual facts, isn't it?

Or, in your case, it's easier to not dispute the absolute lack of evidence that we've all been presented.

What's next? Are you going to tell me the Federal Income Tax is actually legal?

dellinger63 05-03-2011 01:03 PM

They have authenticated audio tape of bin Laden taking credit for the Detroit bombing, naming the bomber. That happened around Christmas of 2009.

Indian Charlie 05-03-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 773296)
They have authenticated audio tape of bin Laden taking credit for the Detroit bombing, naming the bomber. That happened around Christmas of 2009.

Who is "They"?

Do you know how easy it is to fake audio?

Is that really the best evidence out there that he was still alive in 2009?

Is it really believable that OBL was holed up in a big complex, what, half a mile from a military base?

Dahoss 05-03-2011 01:09 PM

Oh, you just threw it in for a reaction. Good one. We both know that's bullsh.it. You said she made the statement and was killed a month later. The implication is there.

You made the statement. You said he's been dead for years. Well, let's see the evidence. You said it isn't even disputable, remember? Put up, or shut up. If the evidence is so overwhelming, woudn't it be pretty easy to link it up and let us idiots in on the secret?

I'm not emotional at all. Just tired of your act. You make stupid comments and then pretend you are kidding. You aren't fooling anyone.

dellinger63 05-03-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 773297)
Is it really believable that OBL was holed up in a big complex, what, half a mile from a military base?

Yes because he was protected by the military. It was no big suprise he was found in Pakistan. Even Hillary said so while handing over a fat check last year.

dellinger63 05-03-2011 01:12 PM




wrong eye but still like it.

brianwspencer 05-03-2011 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 773295)
Is that the best you can do? If you cannot dispute what is presented with facts, mock it!!!

It's much easier to belittle an idea that goes against your belief than it is to examine the actual facts, isn't it?

Or, in your case, it's easier to not dispute the absolute lack of evidence that we've all been presented.

What's next? Are you going to tell me the Federal Income Tax is actually legal?

I'd be equally as interested in trying to seriously join a conversation where you condescendingly told everyone that it's pretty much common knowledge that R Heat Lightning is a unicorn, and that there's tons of evidence that is out there (while not showing us any of it), and that she was withdrawn from the Oaks because it was found out (which is a statement somewhere on par with your specious Bhutto statement).

There will be evidence. And my guess is very soon. So I'm hoping you enjoy the time up until then. And my next guess is that you'll still carry on with this line of argument, and you'll be DT's resident "Deather," because your distrust of the government will not allow you to accept any evidence that contradicts your wild theory.

Looking forward to it!

Indian Charlie 05-03-2011 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 773298)
Oh, you just threw it in for a reaction. Good one. We both know that's bullsh.it. You said she made the statement and was killed a month later. The implication is there.

You made the statement. You said he's been dead for years. Well, let's see the evidence. You said it isn't even disputable, remember? Put up, or shut up. If the evidence is so overwhelming, woudn't it be pretty easy to link it up and let us idiots in on the secret?

I'm not emotional at all. Just tired of your act. You make stupid comments and then pretend you are kidding. You aren't fooling anyone.

There was no intended implication. I am familiar with her history and am fully aware that she knew she was on borrowed time. Hell, even if I'd never had heard of her, that much was clear just from watching the video. You cannot possibly be that stupid to think I missed that, could you?

I can provide you plenty of evidence. Instead of that though, I am asking you to provide me evidence that he was just killed. Why is there a complete lack of evidence? There is precedence for this situation!

I'd like to know why anything I said is stupid. I do kid around a lot, and maybe you often misread me, but hey, I'm not the one who's a ***** and copped out of the handicapping contest with PG1985, and then offered up a bunch of really lame excuses after the fact.

I'm glad I'm not fooling anyone, except for you.


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