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randallscott35 08-07-2010 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 679739)
Why would you blame him? You should blame TVG. They are the ones that keep hounding him every day. It's not his fault.
Dumb argument. And Moss' classless actions at the HOY ceremony last year speak volumes.

10 pnt move up 08-07-2010 10:02 PM
I dont believe Shirreffs has started another horse on the main track this meet....but yea he loves the surface.

Rupert Pupkin 08-07-2010 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 679738)
agreed but I think she will run in the Distaff
Why would you possibly think that? There is almost no chance of that. Their goal all year has been the BC Classic. If she's healthy, she'll run in the Classic. If she not healthy, she won't run at all. She's not going to run in the Distaff.

tiggerv 08-07-2010 10:03 PM
Interesting that he would rather run her on a surface he absolutely hates over shipping out of Cali.

randallscott35 08-07-2010 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 679742)
Why would you possibly think that? There is almost no chance of that. Their goal all year has been the BC Classic. If she's healthy, she'll run in the Classic. If she not healthy, she won't run at all. She's not going to run in the Distaff.
Lets see her come to Belmont first

2Hot4TV 08-07-2010 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 679741)
I dont believe Shirreffs has started another horse on the main track this meet....but yea he loves the surface.
Wrong, I know of at least one maiden that started on the poly at Del Mar. Might of ran last.

Rupert Pupkin 08-07-2010 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 679740)
Dumb argument. And Moss' classless actions at the HOY ceremony last year speak volumes.
How is it a dumb argument? And what did Moss do at the HOY ceremony that was classless?

2Hot4TV 08-07-2010 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tiggerv (Post 679743)
Interesting that he would rather run her on a surface he absolutely hates over shipping out of Cali.
Hey, going from Hollywood to Del Mar counts as shipping.

10 pnt move up 08-07-2010 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV (Post 679746)
Wrong, I know of at least one maiden that started on the poly at Del Mar. Might of ran last.
yea so some piece of trash or a nice bred quality horse?

randallscott35 08-07-2010 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 679747)
How is it a dumb argument? And what did Moss do at the HOY ceremony that was classless?
You're lost dude. There were about 5 threads about it last year. Lookem up....And just b/c TVG is the Zenyatta tv network doesnt mean you have to be a lackey.

tiggerv 08-07-2010 10:10 PM
Shirreffs is 4 1-1-1 at DMR this year including Zenyatta.

Indian Charlie 08-07-2010 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 679693)
You've never been around a brutal Narcissist. All you people are pssd about her, but you tune in to get your punishment. You all think (for at least a couple seconds each race) that you might have her beat. Then she punishes you yet again. Most of ya been trying to get her beat for what? 10 races? She punishes you, but also wants to keep giving you hope. That way, she knows you'll come back for another beating. You have a huge shot at beating her with BLAME, but don't bet money that you need.
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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 679694)
Come now Scuds you mean to tell me this hasn't been fun for you, as we watch Rail Trip, Quality Road, and Rachel Alex all come crashing down to earth. Here comes Blame now as the logical contender. LOL
You two should get a room.

Smooth Operator 08-07-2010 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 679714)
One more race in So Cal before the BC SO? :D
Yeah, you can bet on it, CSC.

They don't need to ship cross-country looking for RA at this point.

It's all about the BCC now.

Prepping at home … on synthetic … gives her the best chance to be at her best for the Cup, in my estimation (although I wish the race at Anita was 9f instead of 8.5).

tiggerv 08-07-2010 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 679750)
yea so some piece of trash or a nice bred quality horse?
1 maiden claimer

1 in the osunitas stakes

1 in bing crosby

zenyatta

Dahoss 08-07-2010 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 679741)
I dont believe Shirreffs has started another horse on the main track this meet....but yea he loves the surface.
So why point the horse to a race at a surface they don't like? That's stupid. Are they really that afraid of shipping/losing?

Rupert Pupkin 08-07-2010 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 679751)
You're lost dude. There were about 5 threads about it last year. Lookem up....And just b/c TVG is the Zenyatta tv network doesnt mean you have to be a lackey.
I have no idea what people would have criticized Moss for. I think he has handled himself great with regards to Zenyatta. He never said that he thought she deserved HOY over Rachel. He has never said that she is better than Rachel. He has been very humble about Zenyatta. I don't know how a guy could have handled himself better.

Indian Charlie 08-07-2010 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 679728)
She apparently did not ship great when she went to Oaklawn this year. The trip knocked her out and she lost weight.
What is this based on? Something that those lying dirtbag connections said?

Are you really that naive to believe any excuse they throw out there?

Whats next? Do you really believe that flying over the Rockies was a legitimate excuse to not ship east earlier this year?

Or that going 10f against males in the Hollywood Gold Cup last year was too daunting a thing to do with a female horse, despite that moronic trainer running a female in that race anyways?

hockey2315 08-07-2010 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 679763)
I have no idea what people would have criticized Moss for. I think he has handled himself great with regards to Zenyatta. He never said that he thought she deserved HOY over Rachel. He has never said that she is better than Rachel. He has been very humble about Zenyatta. I don't know how a guy could have handled himself better.
Pfff

Indian Charlie 08-07-2010 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 679735)
We will see how she runs in the BC Classic this year. That should give people a better idea.
And when she doesn't run in that race????????????

Rupert Pupkin 08-07-2010 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 679762)
So why point the horse to a race at a surface they don't like? That's stupid. Are they really that afraid of shipping/losing?
I don't think they're afraid of losing. She's not a great shipper and they don't want to knock her out. If they were afraid of losing, would they have run in the BC Classic last year instead of the Distaff? If they were afraid of losing would they have agreed to ship to Oaklawn to face Rachel?


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