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Antitrust32 07-02-2010 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 664354)
Not that I know of.

If she ran in the Woodward after this that would be more in line with Jess Jackson's prior style of campaigning, so hopefully you end up being correct.
hopefully she wins her next race with a solid time and performance & then I would truely think that Jess would put her back on track.

Cannon Shell 07-02-2010 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 664210)
HoY this is about marketing..its about people coming to the track something which currently only happens at Delmar and SPA. People dont go to the track, horses arent stars and people have gambling options including other options at the track which keep them away from racing..

Yep that Historic Mother Goose last year was a real humdinger.
No it is about selling out for an extra 5000 people, most of whom wont bet more than token $2 win tickwets on RA at 1-5. That and telling some idiot pol from Hoboken that the horse of the Year (last year) raced there, can we have more money???

In three years no one will even remember the race except some other enterprising owners that will hold the sport for ransom.

Cannon Shell 07-02-2010 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 664371)
hopefully she wins her next race with a solid time and performance & then I would truely think that Jess would put her back on track.
hopefully she loses to a Jersey bred and little Jess will be forced to run in bigger races or take his ball and go home.

Smooth Operator 07-02-2010 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 663922)
“It’s the perfect place to start what we hope will be another championship run.”
This BS is a laugher. What's she been doing the rest of the year. Wasn't the Fleur De Lis enough of a "launchpad"?
The saga of RA gets more hilarious with each passing day.............

tiggerv 07-02-2010 02:06 PM
No way Jess sends her in the Woodward assuming QR is running. I don't think they want the 10F of the Personal Ensign either. My bet is she goes back to MTH for the Molly Pitcher and doesn't run Saratoga at all. MTH will bend over again and boost the purse, or throw a parade, or whatever Jess wants.

Smooth Operator 07-02-2010 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tiggerv (Post 664457)
No way Jess sends her in the Woodward assuming QR is running. I don't think they want the 10F of the Personal Ensign either. My bet is she goes back to MTH for the Molly Pitcher and doesn't run Saratoga at all. MTH will bend over again and boost the purse, or throw a parade, or whatever Jess wants.
QR running back in four weeks???????????????????



lol

Cannon Shell 07-02-2010 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 664466)
QR running back in four weeks???????????????????



lol
Ok mr. 5 races are a full season

The Indomitable DrugS 07-02-2010 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 664421)
hopefully she loses to a Jersey bred and little Jess will be forced to run in bigger races or take his ball and go home.
Unlikely, as I'm sure you know.

The Unrivaled Belle race was a few lengths faster than Arson Squad's win in the Alysheba ... and her easy win last time was clearly faster than Blame's win in the Foster.

The funny part ... is that if he choose to run her against males .. which he might have if Zardana never was cranked up like only Shirreffs can and sent to FG ... Jackass Jess wouldn't have such a deflated grape sack right now.

Danzig 07-02-2010 02:46 PM
hey, if he gets 17 starts in by june 2012, he's good to go.

RolloTomasi 07-03-2010 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HomerS (Post 664824)
its all about the BC.

If Rachel wins BC distaff then nothing that came before is really going to matter.
If the people governing this sport subscribe to this thinking then top level racing is truly doomed.

Cannon Shell 07-03-2010 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 664827)
If the people governing this sport subscribe to this thinking then top level racing is truly doomed.
Ah the irony of Jackson putting all his eggs in the BC basket after doing the exact opposite last year

Cannon Shell 07-03-2010 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HomerS (Post 664831)
Answer me this. if Rachel is not 100% yet what should they be doing?
What would make you think she isnt 100%?

Cannon Shell 07-03-2010 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by HomerS (Post 664832)
Clearly they are not in an ideal situation. Based on last year I am sure they would prefer to take a different approach. But if horse isnt the same what should they do? The "real" Rachel may never show up again
What are you talking about? Did you not see her last race?

RolloTomasi 07-03-2010 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by HomerS (Post 664832)
Thats been the thinking for how long?
Pretty much about the same length of time that top class racing has been on a precipitous decline in this country.

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Clearly they are not in an ideal situation. Based on last year I am sure they would prefer to take a different approach. But if horse isnt the same what should they do? The "real" Rachel may never show up again
Rachel Alexandra is a 4yo filly. She's coming off a Grade 2 victory. What is wrong with the races already in existence like the Grade 2 Delaware Handicap or the Grade 1 Ruffian?

If the "real" Rachel Alexandra ran in either of those, she'd win by a pole. As it stands, even if she's not at her best, she'd be a major contender in either race baced on her 2010 form.

blackthroatedwind 07-03-2010 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by HomerS (Post 664838)
Should their goal be the Delaware Hcp or the Breeders Cup?
Believe it or not, racehorses can have more than one goal.


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