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Duvalier 07-04-2009 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by stonegossard
Phil , in all seriousness quit your whining. If you don't like it then don't participate/read this thread. Guys post cr#p all the time that I have no interest in reading...that being said I just ignore it.
I love irony.

Coach Pants 07-04-2009 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Duvalier
I love irony.
How would you know?

fpsoxfan 07-04-2009 03:09 PM
What a great ride by the jockey who rode Lady lumberjack in the first at Hollywood.

Coach Pants 07-04-2009 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
What a great ride by the jockey who rode Lady lumberjack in the first at Hollywood.
Yeah that was a hall of fame ride right there.

Sightseek 07-04-2009 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
Steve. As for you. Try getting off your high horse. I've always acted like a true professional on this site and on the times you've asked me to guest on your radio show. I have NEVER taken myself too seriously. You might want to consider the same. Last time I checked this game is supposed to be fun. Right?
Steve is a big boy and can speak for himself, but the "getting off your high horse" comment I think is a bit much. No one works harder in this industry to make sure people walk away with the best experience possible with the sport than Steve.

JerseyJ 07-04-2009 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Duvalier
I love irony.
I have still yet to see your worthwile contribution to this thread displaying any knowledge of this sport.

Duvalier 07-04-2009 04:05 PM
I think Vic roots for Rosario in his calls.

SCUDSBROTHER 07-04-2009 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JerseyJ
It doesn't seem like whining to me. It seems like an extremely fair point. One of the jobs that Vic Stauffer holds clearly can and has an impact on the way he performs another, and it just happens that the job that is impacted is the one in which he performs it on a national level, so as fans, bettors, and anything else, the one thing that he needs to do is have the utmost professionalism in his race calls, which admittedtly he goes over the top a bit with Rosario, because he has a particular interest in what Rosario does. You have yet to provide any explanation or reasoning as to why stonegossard's point is wrong or over the top.
I DON'T HEAR THIS BIAS IN ANY OF HIS CALLS. Could someone give me another example. Last night's 6th race was a match race. PGRDN, did I not say it was just those two(Rosario's and the dropper chalk) horses? So, wouldn't anyone be noticing what these two horses are doing? I think it's a little odd to have the announcer be a jock's agent, but I don't think his calls have changed. Maybe I missed it. Like I said, give me a real example. This was a match race.

Bobby Fischer 07-04-2009 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by philcski
I can't believe you guys are going on for this long about some crappy maiden claimer. I thought the call was good, who cares who was riding the horse that made the big move.

Enough of this childish bullsh1t.
amen

and how 'bout Pacheco today ?

philcski 07-04-2009 04:40 PM
OMGOMGOMG RACE 4!!! there was such a biased call for Rosario on the 7, he said that one 4 times and the other 4 times OMGZZZZ! :rolleyes:

SCUDSBROTHER 07-04-2009 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Can see this thread being :L: very soon
Vic ain't Andy.

the_fat_man 07-04-2009 05:00 PM
Compare Vic's calls, where he picks up the horses early, to Durkin's call of the Suburban, where the latter mentions just about every horse but the winner in the stretch run, and only calls that one's name at the wire. Now, that's 'court vision':rolleyes:.

But he Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrr's real good.

10 pnt move up 07-04-2009 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Compare Vic's calls, where he picks up the horses early, to Durkin's call of the Suburban, where the latter mentions just about every horse but the winner in the stretch run, and only calls that one's name at the wire. Now, that's 'court vision':rolleyes:.

But he Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrr's real good.
No one thinks Durkin is any good now of days, do they?

pgardn 07-04-2009 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I DON'T HEAR THIS BIAS IN ANY OF HIS CALLS. Could someone give me another example. Last night's 6th race was a match race. PGRDN, did I not say it was just those two(Rosario's and the dropper chalk) horses? So, wouldn't anyone be noticing what these two horses are doing? I think it's a little odd to have the announcer be a jock's agent, but I don't think his calls have changed. Maybe I missed it. Like I said, give me a real example. This was a match race.
Yes indeed.
Which is why I watched the race.
I was happy that neither horse or jockey got hurt
as that was a left turn without signaling. THe 3 had the
race won. And one of the last things I heard, after all was OK,
was that 3 would have won from V.
We apparently heard the same thing indicating bias.
Nothing.

How about that call in the 7th with the 4 horse.
Me and the entire state of Calfornia saw that one coming
apparently.

2Hot4TV 07-04-2009 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JerseyJ
He "attacked" his work because there is a clear potential bias towards a person involved in the industry that Stauffer works with and has the potential to gain from when the person (Rosario) wins or suceeds. Instead of a snide remark such as "Bite Me", a response such as yeah, there are some times where I may go over the edge regarding horses that Joel rides, but that's the nature of representing someone in both positions I work in. It's something that will happen occasionally, but I work my hardest to not let it happen, but it's something that will happen, and it's something that Hollywood Park has accepted and the fans will have to understand. That goes a whole lot further in my opinion, especially from an industry professional who is one of this industry's most recognizable faces.
I got 1/4 way thru, well............













Weenie.

2Hot4TV 07-04-2009 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by stonegossard
If you think that Is DrugS main problem then either you aren't a true friend or don't pay enough attention to him. My man Douglas has worse issues.

Last time I checked this was a horse racing board. Post your concerns about Doug's issues on contactlense.com.
This what I'm talking about,

























pure entertainment.

Now if Vic changes his calls for you will you be charging him for your" Bite Me " or will that be on the house?????????

pgardn 07-04-2009 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Vic ain't Andy.

[There are many others on this board, who also represent racing in varying degrees, that have made comments or put up pictures that might also be considered inappropriate and/or involve personal conflict. So all the representatives of racing are clearly not treated equally. And there are posters on here that absolutely delight in denigrating posters who have jobs that are well known while they can remain anonymous. This is pure and simple yellow chicken residue.

Which is why I posted.
Bottom line is Steve has to try and diffuse many childish conflicts on a site he intended for enjoyment among horse racing fans. Even if some posters revel in conflict, and it is obviously quite entertaing to some of the posters who would have enjoyed a good day in a Roman stadium.

SCUDSBROTHER 07-04-2009 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kasept
Vic,

Sorry... While everyone is entitled to the occasional outburst or angry reply, this a very disappointing response from an industry professional given the measured tone of Pete's original post. You are in a slightly awkward position holding book and calling, and acknowledging that there is a race where you occasionally cross the line is only going to win you the understanding of viewers. The above is an Albert Belle-esque antic, and only demonstrates that you recognize you were overly cognizant of Rosario's spot in the race.
I think it's possible that this industry professional could have seen the way other industry professionals have been allowed to act on here. Problem is that you've got different rules for different folks. That's simply the truth. Nice guy, but you treat people(acting the same way) differently. This is a gleaming example of it, but there are many.

my miss storm cat 07-04-2009 06:25 PM
I'm surprised to see a couple here seem so horrified at the alleged rudeness in stonegossards post...

Where was he rude? He had a valid opinion, stated it, and backed it up.

He sure as hell doesn't need me to defend him but I will anyway cause he's right.

He's knowledgeable, articulate, he's got balls and has not been disrespectful in the least.

A couple of you are being drama queens and instead of being so mortally offended should go back and read the original post.

Rudeboyelvis 07-04-2009 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
I'm surprised to see a couple here seem so horrified at the alleged rudeness in stonegossards post...

Where was he rude? He had a valid opinion, stated it, and backed it up.

He sure as hell doesn't need me to defend him but I will anyway cause he's right.

He's knowledgeable, articulate, he's got balls and has not been disrespectful in the least.

A couple of you are being drama queens and instead of being so mortally offended should go back and read the original post.
Maybe it was the 13 straight hours of responding to every single post in this thread with the same narcissistic dreck, stretching this mess out to 7 pages that grew wearisome... Dunno, just a guess


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