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dalakhani 09-28-2008 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Holy sht.
An honest person.

It had very, very little to do with RELIGIOUS beliefs-pgardn

Which one is it Pgardn? Are you flipping back to it had "nothing" to do with religiuos beliefs or are we still at very, very little?

Or are you going to deny you posted this?

Danzig 09-28-2008 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
I would also.

Not true in Germany in the late 30's and 40's.They were very active in Germany in trade and as merchant's but when
WWI ended and the depression came on, they became targets largely because of economic misperceptions. Easy targets.

i'm talking about further back then the last century...altho in rome, they were still kept in a 'ghetto' where the germans marched most of the inhabitants out of rome right under the pope's nose, nary a word of protest from that fellow.

Mortimer 09-28-2008 05:17 PM

The Egyptians drove out the Jewish people only because they could not field a good softball team.

Mortimer 09-28-2008 05:17 PM

Perhaps that is what Hitler saw.

geeker2 09-28-2008 05:22 PM

The Jewish girls I knew really put out :tro:

pgardn 09-28-2008 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
It had very, very little to do with RELIGIOUS beliefs-pgardn

Which one is it Pgardn? Are you flipping back to it had "nothing" to do with religiuos beliefs or are we still at very, very little?

Or are you going to deny you posted this?

There are isolated cases of terror that some Christian Germans felt the Jews betrayed Jesus. This aint new. And never will be in some Christians minds.

But this is not the systematic thrust of Hitler's crystal nacht, and then the subsequent move to ghettos followed by Concentration camps, which led to the final solution.

Man you are stubborn as hell.
And very disingenuious. Very.
You know I know exactly what you are attempting.

You lost and all that crap... like this is some damn game.
It was an attempt at some insight and you trashed it.

pgardn 09-28-2008 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i'm talking about further back then the last century...altho in rome, they were still kept in a 'ghetto' where the germans marched most of the inhabitants out of rome right under the pope's nose, nary a word of protest from that fellow.

Causing John Paul to issue a formal apology.
Something that might not come from the current Pope.

Galileo is off the hook also.
Im sure he is happy about that.

timmgirvan 09-28-2008 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
their 'knack' as you call it for business....i would call that a bit of a stereotype. for years and years-centuries really, back to the middle ages, they had no venue opened to them for business, with many turning to money- lending as most other trades were illegal for jews. so, along with getting harrassed for their religion, they were attacked for usury, and by those who owed them money-or by those who knew they had money, else how could they lend it?
but what it all boils down to, all these centuries, is their religious beliefs. it's because of their faith that they were confined to ghettoes, banned from most trades, attacked, beaten, killed, charged with witchcraft, killing and eating good little christian children, etc, etc.

I resisted expanding on that stereotype,but nevertheless you explained it. 2 things,though....what is it about their religion is so offensive(like I said..they don't infringe on others beliefs) and secondly...what makes you think they were burned as witches and that stuff?

timmgirvan 09-28-2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
The Jewish girls I knew really put out :tro:

When you only have 2 weeks out of the month to have fun...I guess so!

timmgirvan 09-28-2008 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Causing John Paul to issue a formal apology.
Something that might not come from the current Pope.

Galileo is off the hook also.
Im sure he is happy about that.

I was raised in Catholic schools and they truly blamed the Jews for "killing Christ" Don't know what the new Pope thinks about it.

timmgirvan 09-28-2008 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I think through all of this we forgot how we got here. Dimmy made and continues to make dumb comments. I have yet to see one person disagree with this. Anyone?

Sit down,fool,your time is over!

timmgirvan 09-28-2008 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Still waiting....

yeah...waiting for the short bus, or is it a little horse?

dalakhani 09-28-2008 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
There are isolated cases of terror that some Christian Germans felt the Jews betrayed Jesus. This aint new. And never will be in some Christians minds.
But this is not the systematic thrust of Hitler's crystal nacht, and then the subsequent move to ghettos followed by Concentration camps, which led to the final solution.

Man you are stubborn as hell.
And very disingenuious. Very.
You know I know exactly what you are attempting.

You lost and all that crap... like this is some damn game.
It was an attempt at some insight and you trashed it.

So why don't you just say that the original contention was wrong? you keep flip flopping. See...I know what YOU are trying to do.

you want to talk about disingenuous you phony flopper? Thats laughable. You came on this thread to be the big bad defender of dimmigirvan and now you are playing the whole intellectual card. Spare me.

Do you want me to pull up all of the posts that you directed at me and dahoss? There was one post where you told dahoss that he was aiming to beat up on dimmigirvan except that he messed up because you, the big bad intellectual, stepped in and put us in our place.

Now, after all of that, you want to act like you were trying to enlighten us with insight from some book you read? Get over yourself. Please, get over yourself.

timmgirvan 09-28-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
i guess someone is honest if they agree with your flip flopped discussion changing point of view? LOL

You really should petition for a REFUND on your education!

dalakhani 09-28-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
yeah...waiting for the short bus, or is it a little horse?

You drive that bus my slow friend...head gear and all.

timmgirvan 09-28-2008 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
So why don't you just say that the original contention was wrong? you keep flip flopping. See...I know what YOU are trying to do.

you want to talk about disingenuous you phony flopper? Thats laughable. You came on this thread to be the big bad defender of dimmigirvan and now you are playing the whole intellectual card. Spare me.

Do you want me to pull up all of the most that you directed at me and dahoss? There was one post where you told dahoss that he was aiming to beat up on dimmigirvan except that he messed up because you, the big bad intellectual, stepped in and put us in our place.

Now, after all of that, you want to act like you were trying to enlighten us with insight from some book you read? Get over yourself. Please, get over yourself.

Look into the mirror,ditz....:zz:

timmgirvan 09-28-2008 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
You drive that bus my slow friend...head gear and all.

Get offa Hossy...he wants to post!


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