Yeah it was a hand ride to get past Barcola. :rolleyes:

Hey Coach im not trying to gang up on you here but one of the reasons I come on here is to read your comedic stylings in your posts. You are a truely funny person, dont turn into a hater like most people on this board. But I have to say I was impressed with Einstiens performance and im sure the connections got exactly what they wanted to out of this race. But its not like my opinion matters much here anyways.

Coach...please explain the difference between what Einsteins connections did running on the dirt then what Secretariats did running him on grass and Curlins discussing the real probability of him running on the weeds?

As a racing fan and previous owner, I personally don't care what surface a horse races on as long as he's competitive and could make him a more attractive asset down the road. Not every race has to be for a win BTW. You think the West Point people are UNHAPPY with their 2nd place Preakness finish? It's about the Franklins $$$$ IMO. And as many trainers state everyday, their decisions are not about making racing fans HAPPY.

yeah, no doubt sec's fee rose after that race....

North American-breds, yes, several times. North American-trained, no, mainly because it has rarely been tried, if at all. Longchamps, the track where the Arc is run, is a horseshoe-shaped RIGHT-handed track, which is the biggest hurdle for US-types, along with the soft ground that so often turns up for the Arc. US-raced horses never have to turn right-handed at speed, they have never developed the muscles or flexibility on that side (unlike Euro-horses) and would be running with a major disadvantage.

Looks like they're discussing trying it:


http://racing.bloodhorse.com/article/45743.htm

Thanks for the post, PA- who were some of the American-bred winners and did any of them race in the US or were their careers entirely overseas?

trust me, hes really not that funny.
and coach, i wanted to gang up on you here and i did not, i dont take cheap shots like you.

I don't recall anyone, other than yourself, suggesting that if Curlin were to run on turf, it would be to raise his stud fee.

Like Secretariat, Curlin pretty much has nothing to prove on dirt, and it would just be a display of versatility were he to win a big turf stakes. By the same reasoning, you might suggest that he show up for the BC at Santa Anita, too.

Bring it, son. You're acting a little cocky after that Pick 4 hit. I'll bring your stupid ass back down to earth.

cocky ?
i have done nothing cocky at all.... i lose more then i win latley, now your just searching for **** to say. i have not been cocky at all

i said your not that funny
whats cocky about that...
you really are not very funny

Stop being a chump and say what's on your mind. You say stupid s.hit on here multiple times in a day so what's stopping you now?

im not being a chump, im not going to take shots at you when everyone else already is... your the one who does that, you sneak **** in whenever you can... its like you cant help yourself

and i did say whats on my mind
YOUR NOT VERY FUNNY
TO ME, YOUR NOT FUNNY AT ALL

Well since I'm fed up with this place how about we have a poll and see who has contributed more to this site? Loser leaves for good.

Melbourne based horses float over and go the Sydney way with success all of the time.

The biggest hurdle for US types is their inferiority, not the layout at Longchamp.

The only horse that I can recall who absolutely detested going right handed is Vroom Vroom from the David Hayes stable a couple of years back. He has since died of a heart attack, but that horse was a terror going left-handed, and absolutely useless going right handed.

Vroom Vroom dies during trackwork

Monday, 28 August 2006:

David Hayes lost one of his main Cox Plate hopes when Vroom Vroom suffered a massive haemorrhage during trackwork at Lindsay Park on Monday and died.

"He wasn't working particularly fast either," Hayes said of the bold frontrunning imported six-year-old.

"He didn't drop but gradually slowed down, collapsed and died.

"He was one of my main Cox Plate hopes."

Vroom Vroom was a Group One winner of the Argentine Guineas and had won three of his first four starts in Argentina before being sent to Hayes in Hong Kong.

He failed to adapt to the right-handed direction of racing there, being placed just once in nine Hong Kong starts.

Hayes brought him to Melbourne where he excelled the left-handed way, winning four races including the Listed Auckland Racing Club Stakes (1600m) at Flemington.

The gelding ran third to Our Smoking Joe in the St George Stakes (1800m) at Caulfield and a close fourth to Roman Arch in the Australian Cup (2000m) at Flemington.

Vroom Vroom hadn't raced since finishing fourth to Cosmo Bulk in the Singapore International Cup (2000m) at Kranji on May 14.

He was due to resume in Adelaide on Saturday week.

Look I can't help it if I'm being ganged up for an opinion that doesn't mean jack s.hit in the grand scheme of things. I can handle ateam and Hoss. They love arguing semantics and I do too. We have a difference of opinion on where Einstein should be running...that's it.

i got you....

lol no
because ppl dont like me, and thats childish and dumb, i never EVER SAID YOU DONT CONTRIbute i just said YOUR NOT FUNNY

Of course I'm not funny. I've been thinking about an original retort to your horrendous grammar and have NOTHING.