Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 798018)

I've discovered the organizational philosophy clyde. Swing at everything. I've been talking about how much Fukodome gets on base?? Since he's come to Cleveland he's stopped walking...completely. Remember Sizemore as a young player?? He was very patient and walked a ton. By this year, he swings at everything humanly possible and no longer walks at all. They have another patient young hitter in Santana (let's not talk about his other flaws...that's another discussion altogether!!) but he takes a ton of pitches and walks all the time. We'll see how long that lasts. I'm guessing as time goes on, they'll get him to swing at everything too as they can't see that's not really a problem, he already strikes out a ton, so at least right now he's not swinging at too many balls. Their goal will be to get him to swing at MORE bad pitches. Hafner's walk rate has gone down through the years too.

I've always thought that was an individual thing...the K's but it's happening with player after player after player....more Ks, less walks. Peralta's K rate is WAY down this year...is it magic..or something else..he never hit or got on base as well as he did in 2005, the next 5 years...now he's back to that by magic?? I am starting to think we have some organizational coaching issues and hitting philosophy issues all the way through the organization.

Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 798049)

I'm a stat nerd clyde and I have just now started to look closer at O-Bald-O. Oh my goodness. He has not pitched as well as Carlos Carrasco this year. You could even make a legitimate argument he has not pitched as well as Exhausto THIS YEAR!! He's got a slightly lower ERA, but Exhausto walks less guys and puts fewer guys on base than Obaldo too. The only difference is Obaldo gives up fewer home runs this year. That's been the big failure in Exhausto this year is the substantial increase in the long ball. But other than that you could argue with some support he's pitched as well as or even better than Obaldo. We actually traded our top two pitching prospects for a guy who isn't really pitching any better at all than the flippin 2011 version of Exhausto.

Furthermore in bringing him in, we sent down a guy who in 3 starts gave up 3 runs and 1 earned run with an ERA of 0.51. I know David Huff will not continue that, but criminy, really?? I'm not a fan of Huff, but I was a big fan of how he pitched when he got called up, and you reward a 0.51 ERA with a trip to Columbus?? Insane. You're gonna send him down because we brought Obaldo in?? I'm John Kerry/Mittens Romney on this trade...I was against it before I was for it, before I was against it again before I was hopeful for it before I was praying for miracles for it before I am now against it again!! You saw the light all along right from the start. I just needed to investigate some.