That is unfortunately true, while the Obama White House has proven they can keep a secret, the pictures evidently have been shown to some members of Congress and the track record there is pretty weak. Given that some members of Congress have already gone on record as being in disagreement with the President's decision, it wouldn't be a great surprise. In a related story, Sarah Palin stated today that she is in strong disagreement and that we shouldn't "pussyfoot" around. I will resist the temptation to respond to her.

Yeah. Right. Poor you.

Geeshus cripes. And, please, do repost where I called you a wife beater. As pointed out to you at the time, no, I did not.

Do you really have that great of an inferiority complex? Others can have a different opinion than you without being smug, arrogant or "on a soapbox". Why do you feel you have the right to express your opinions but I don't?

I would take more offense at being told I had the mind of a 9-year-old. Your priorities are indeed strange. And no, you've never called me anything, have you?

I challenge anyone to look through every post I've made on Derby Trail over the past many years, and see where I've cast the first stone at another poster. Yes, Dell and Nascar, I most certainly do defend myself. Nascar, you aren't worth giving the respect of talking to any more.

Yes, I did, and if you and Nascar can't understand the deliberate difference in making those two different statements, I can't help you. Some of us care what words actually mean, and choose them thusly.

And the operative wording in that sentence was "domineering misogynistic jackass". I'd think the average person would take offense to that, the point of the sentence. And gee, I wonder why I was compelled to defend myself by calling him that?

Seriously? Poor Nascar is entitled to be frustrated with me, because I didn't take the insults and attacks he was directing at me first laying down? Because I stood up to him?

Trying to make it seem like I posted that to Nascar out of thin air is pretty disingenuous. Nice try. Won't fly.

You don't get it and at your age, you never will.

You preach non stop on here. You probably aren't aware, but you do. Express your opinions all you want. But preaching to people about how they should act or think more like you is doing exactly what you preach to others not to do.

Buffy The Vampire sucks also.

It was nice of you to stop in at this thread solely to throw stones and start **** with posters you don't care for. Thanks for stopping by, and giving us a laugh over your "you preach" comment :D

none of us are ever going to get along here in the poly forum. That is as much of a given as Palin saying something stupid and Democrats spending money.

but hey, at least bin Laden is dead and stuck on the bottom of the sea. That is one great thing we will all agree with.

True that :tro: Jon Stewart did a pretty funny victory "tonight is all about the id" dance last night on Comedy Central about it ;)

Again, you start up a forum, you can dictate when and how people post. Until then, shut up.

You're a big joke. Everyone knows it, that is why no one wants to participate in discussions about politics. The only ones not in on it are you and the middle aged guy that likes tween shows.

Oh, you're free to post. You should be man enough to take it, though. Rather than trying to be a bully and dictate to others what they may and may not post in this forum. Apparently you think you are the self-appointed sheriff here? And you're the one dictating about "preaching"? LOL

"Shut up"? That's the best you can do? How old are you, five?

We are also free to laugh at your posts, and point out your most obvious self-rightous hypocrisy :D

And when you start up your own forum, you can dictate when and how people post. Especially when you don't like their public responses to you. Until then, you can feel free to throw a dictatorial tantrum and shut up, too.

I love the "we" stuff.

What an assh.ole.

That was quite the edit.

Get it all out bro.

Sis. You should drop in and dictate what we can post more often, so you have a clue. I'll leave you with your own advice. You should follow it: "Again, you start up a forum, you can dictate when and how people post. Until then, shut up."

Oh no, you're more bro than most of the guys here.

Good advice. I'll keep it in mind bro.

I suppose that was intended to try and be an insult.

:D

I didn't think you could not have the last word bro. I should say "we" knew it.

Do you realize your using that "last word" phrase is always the way you passive-aggressively end your fights on Derby Trail?

You go ahead, you get last word ;)

We knew it.

At least I didn't make a false accusation at you of beating up your spouse if someone is dumb enough to be married to you. You like to dish it out but when it is thrown back in your worthless face you cry foul.

Either did I. Wish you could read. That lie you're repeating to create your victimhood was exposed a few posts ago.

No. I just pointed out exactly what you are, and you can't take women standing up to your crap. I didn't post that response to you out of thin air. I posted it in defense of your bullshiat towards me. Why don't you post the crap you said to me, first, that prompted my reponse?

In fact, it's so true still, I'll repeat my words to you again. Maybe you can call me the c-word again to make yourself feel better:

"You're kind of a textbook case of the domineering misogynistic jackass, who sometimes degenerates into wife-beating."

The rest was just line by line comment about the nastiness you wrote to me (Lori left that part out):
"Ordering another person what to feel, attempted control of anothers emotions (setting them up for failure if they dare disagree with you)" "Attempted disparagement, but passive-aggressive, justification of their aggressive actions by saying another agrees with them" "Threat of future harm"

But this part most certainly still applies:

"Yup. You're the textbook misogynistic jackass. Good luck with that, buddy. "

nascars avatar.....the beer drinking cat is awesome.......

I can agree to that. Nice segue :D

It seems like the forensic evidence we got from bin Laden's compound: telephone numbers, computers, etc. - is promising and extended. That could prove more important to getting rid of terrorist plots against us than killing bin Laden alone.

Did anybody else notice this about Pakistan: we flew helicopters deep into their terrority, they didn't know about it, and they couldn't even muster an air defense response after 40 minutes?

Thankfully they couldn't, this had to be a consideration for the President and his advisers...guess they were aware of this weakness.

OK I'll take the challenge. Here's the thread in question.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40986

What post prior to post #191 did I cast the first stone?

No we're all too busy noticing Pakistan must have been harboring bin Laden.

This comment is almost as odd as 'she'll be OK' or 'Carter has a deep understanding'.

You are a bit off!

Yes, I admit I did call you an idiot, after you deliberately misunderstood and completely misstated what I said, and you told me, "WTF?????? I now believe you haven't a clue of what forcible rape is?" and another poster told me, "You repulse me".

All because I expressed gladness Lara Logan wasn't killed, and you two didn't like my word choice.

Guilty as charged. I expressed concern over Lara Logan, and you replied with that phrase. I explained my words, you continued to ignore my explaination in favor of deliberately parsing my words to mean something I said they did not. In fact, you continue to deliberately misstate and lie about what I meant to this day. So yes, I did call you an idiot. And you still are, btw. So get over it.

Whats odd about it? It's a statement of fact compared to an accusation yet unproven.

I know they said that is why they wanted the mission limited to 30 minutes (it took 35 or 40 I think having to go to plan B with the helicopter down) - but they had expected at least for air defense to be launched by that time. It wasn't that I've read?

:tro::tro:

yea cause you and Riot believe in hope over fact.

BTW It's a fact we didn't let the Paki's know and they were forced to scramble jets because WE DIDN'T TRUST THEM! That's fact! And again why Riot and now your response are so odd IMO.

No, there is no evidence that it was...of course there is a possibility that the "right people" were advised to stand down. This like other aspects of the presence of OBL in a luxury estate will come out much later if at all. I would like to give the government of Pakistan the benefit of the doubt due to the sensitive nature of the entire operation.

they actually did scramble fighters as the special forces team was leaving. we contacted them and told them they were ours. and there's speculation we have some stealth capabilities here.

http://www.armedforces-int.com/news/...elicopter.html

I wish you could understand the words other people write.

Yes, we didn't tell the Pakis were were there. That is the point. That is why I find it so odd that, after 30-40 minutes, they still had not mustered any response an air incursion over their territory, to their military academy.

Thanks! I hadn't seen that! Stealth capability there would be awesome, indeed.

You seem to confuse "hope" with "fact"...it's a fact they didn't muster a defense by scrambling their jets, it's pure conjecture they were harboring OBL.

Is that why you and Riot are concerned about their response time from attack? By the U.S.A. ? Do you and Riot even have a clue how Paki men treat their women HERE in the USA?

That would make sense, especially in light of the need to destroy the damaged blackhawk.