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MaTH716 08-15-2012 04:04 PM

I really don't blame Melky, cause quite frankly he sucked balls without the juice.

Bigsmc 08-15-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 883565)
I really don't blame Melky, cause quite frankly he sucked balls without the juice.

Maybe he can get Braun's lawyer.

Bigsmc 08-15-2012 04:15 PM

Felix Hernandez is perfect through 9 vs the anemic Rays bats.

*hoping to mush*

MaTH716 08-15-2012 04:47 PM

Wow, struck out the side in the 8th.

MaTH716 08-15-2012 05:04 PM

Perfect!

MaTH716 08-15-2012 05:07 PM

He fell behind Sean Rodriguez the 27th batter 2-0 and threw maybe the nastiest slider ever. Followed by a ridiculous curve and then painted the corner with a fastball. He was absolutely lights out, unhittable.
Thanks for letting me know Bigs.

golfer 08-15-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 883569)
Felix Hernandez is perfect through 9 vs the anemic Rays bats.

*hoping to mush*

Nice reverse mush!

Bigsmc 08-15-2012 05:10 PM

The Rays feed didn't go to commercial before the ninth. Instead, they showed a reel of the first 24 outs. Kudos to them for recognizing the moment and kicking the sponsors to the curb for one break.

Bigsmc 08-15-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer (Post 883596)
Nice reverse mush!

Do you even know what sport we are talking about?

golfer 08-15-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 883598)
Do you even know what sport we are talking about?

Soccer?

I don't need to be a baseball expert to know when a mush attempt turns into a reverse mushing. Seen it way too many times before.

golfer 08-16-2012 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 883498)

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...icle-1.1137343

I don't care much for Victor Conte, but it's hard to imagine there's anyone on the planet who knows more about this subject?

Bigsmc 08-16-2012 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by golfer (Post 883710)
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...icle-1.1137343

I don't care much for Victor Conte, but it's hard to imagine there's anyone on the planet who knows more about this subject?

Nothing new regarding testosterone (see Landis, Floyd). Just like anything else, atheletes (or horse trainers) are going to push the envelope. Most are smart enough to stay below the testing limits. Some, make mistakes or are dumb enough to get caught.

Anyone who believes most atheletes are clean, aren't taking every advantage and pushing the testing envelope, are naive.

Rudeboyelvis 08-16-2012 10:12 AM

At what point do you think the Rays take an honest look at Derek Shelton (the Rays hitting coach)?

They've been no-hit what, like 3 times since he's been here?

They consistently struggle with hitting, players that come in (Re: Scott, Keppinger, Reynolds, Matsuki, etc.) come in on a tear, and go ice cold within two weeks.

Of course I realize the payroll isn't that of some of the bigger markets, but they were hitting better with worse scrubs in the late 90's - where there's smoke .....

Bigsmc 08-19-2012 12:16 PM

You can't make this shi t up. Wow.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/82...se-report-says

MaTH716 08-22-2012 01:49 PM

Bye-bye Bartolo............................

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/82...lb-drug-policy

declansharbor 08-22-2012 02:35 PM

Looks like my buddy and I will be collecting when the Nats win the NL East this year!! Bet $50 each on the Nats and Marlins to win NL East. We laughed to each other when the Phils were 1/2 to win the division, and 2.25/1 to win the NL. We might've been the only guys in Philly with realistic expectations of our team before the season started. You need your head checked if you were to bet the Phils at those prices, esp with the other teams getting markedly better and the Phils practically standing still.

Phillies are one thing, but you wouldn't catch us DEAD betting against our Birds! Foles for President 2016!! :eek:

MaTH716 08-22-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 885516)
Looks like my buddy and I will be collecting when the Nats win the NL East this year!! Bet $50 each on the Nats and Marlins to win NL East. We laughed to each other when the Phils were 1/2 to win the division, and 2.25/1 to win the NL. We might've been the only guys in Philly with realistic expectations of our team before the season started. You need your head checked if you were to bet the Phils at those prices, esp with the other teams getting markedly better and the Phils practically standing still.

Phillies are one thing, but you wouldn't catch us DEAD betting against our Birds! Foles for President 2016!! :eek:

Too bad for you Mikey, you guys would have really cleaned up betting last year against the dream team :rolleyes: .

declansharbor 08-22-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 885519)
Too bad for you Mikey, you guys would have really cleaned up betting against the dream team :rolleyes: last year.

eh, i would rather burn my house to the ground than bet against my football team. It's funny how people actually took a backup's idiotic attempt to garner some buzz and ran with it, but not nary a mention of Vick saying we have the potential to be a dynasty. People are selective I suppose..

MaTH716 08-22-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 885522)
eh, i would rather burn my house to the ground than bet against my football team. It's funny how people actually took a backup's idiotic attempt to garner some buzz and ran with it, but not nary a mention of Vick saying we have the potential to be a dynasty. People are selective I suppose..

I think alot of teams have potential (maybe a dynasty is a bit of a stretch). But Dream teams aren't supposed to flop (although they did get rolling late last season).

Bigsmc 08-23-2012 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 885506)
Bye-bye Bartolo............................

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/82...lb-drug-policy

You gotta love the MLB spin doctors telling you that catching Melky and Bart shows us that the PED policy is working.

That's akin to horse racing saying we've caught Zaidie and Dutrow, proof positive that the drug testing is working and the sport is clean.

slotdirt 08-23-2012 07:49 AM

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I find it pretty amazing that Ryan Braun was able to avoid a suspension while three guys from the Dominican (Ramirez, Colon, Cabrera) and Marlon Byrd could not.

In any event, not to go all Skip Bayless on you guys, but if folks believe that there aren't a lot more guys out there who are using PED's (Braun included), then I have some great property in Antarctica I'd like to sell you.

Cannon Shell 08-23-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 885665)
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I find it pretty amazing that Ryan Braun was able to avoid a suspension while three guys from the Dominican (Ramirez, Colon, Cabrera) and Marlon Byrd could not.

In any event, not to go all Skip Bayless on you guys, but if folks believe that there aren't a lot more guys out there who are using PED's (Braun included), then I have some great property in Antarctica I'd like to sell you.

Braun avoided a suspension on a technical issue not because MLB likes white jewish guys. Obviously MLB has learned from its mistakes in the Braun case.

Plus you forgot that noted slugger Freddy Galvis who also got 50.

Crown@club 08-23-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 885675)
Braun avoided a suspension on a technical issue not because MLB likes white jewish guys. Obviously MLB has learned from its mistakes in the Braun case.

Plus you forgot that noted slugger Freddy Galvis who also got 50.

Hey there was Alex Sanchez

slotdirt 08-23-2012 03:24 PM

Though just to prove they mean business, old incarcerated bob (former WFAN NY frequent caller, also frequently wrong on many things such as Scoop Jardine point shaving issue) is now reporting that Fielder or Verlander have tested positive for something or other.

3kings 02-06-2013 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 885675)
Braun avoided a suspension on a technical issue not because MLB likes white jewish guys. Obviously MLB has learned from its mistakes in the Braun case.

Plus you forgot that noted slugger Freddy Galvis who also got 50.

Ryan "Lance" Braun is one unlucky guy, everyone is out to get him. He just went to the local PED pusher to get information and now people think he is using using. :zz:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ryan-br...235650670.html

slotdirt 02-06-2013 12:48 PM

What? But Braun said he never touched the stuff and that a sealed, tamper resistant package that followed chain of custody protocol was somehow tampered with in 2011? You mean he maybe wasn't exactly telling the truth?

Bigsmc 02-08-2013 08:28 AM

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/89...ording-sources

Kershaw and Verlander are drooling.

Enjoy your last couple years of David Price Tampa Bay....

dalakhani 02-09-2013 02:55 PM

I just took the rays at 25-1 to win the series. Do I have a shot?

alysheba4 02-15-2013 05:57 PM

no

3kings 07-22-2013 06:40 PM

I guess there was more tampering.:rolleyes:

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...iggest-dipwad/

slotdirt 07-22-2013 07:35 PM

Still can't believe people actually believed this guy.

Alabama Stakes 07-23-2013 08:39 AM

they believed Lance Armstrong. 10 years ago after talking to a world class cyclist, he said in no uncertain terms that, NO ONE could dominate on the hills like Armstrong without something. Just not possible. I believed him.

wiphan 07-23-2013 09:22 AM

Definitely disappointed in Braun and as a brewers fan you always wanted to believe him(even though you knew it was probably true) especially after his statement following his appeal.

For all you that knew he cheated and was on PED's do you think that less than 2% of NFL players are on something? How many NFL players actually test positive? I believe that most likely more than 50% of NFL players are on something. We are amazed by the recovery and amazing performance on players like Adrian Peterson. Do you really believe that they do this naturally? or do you think they are on something? I have talked to former assistant coaches of high level D1 college football programs and about 90% of the athletes are on something. Not to mention my best friend was a running back at a D2 program and he said 75% of the team was on something. I think as fans we only care when someone gets caught, but in the back of our mind we know that most of these elite athletes take something illegal. I truly believe as fans we would just rather not know and continue to turn our head to than to face reality.

3kings 07-23-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 936634)
Definitely disappointed in Braun and as a brewers fan you always wanted to believe him(even though you knew it was probably true) especially after his statement following his appeal.

For all you that knew he cheated and was on PED's do you think that less than 2% of NFL players are on something? How many NFL players actually test positive? I believe that most likely more than 50% of NFL players are on something. We are amazed by the recovery and amazing performance on players like Adrian Peterson. Do you really believe that they do this naturally? or do you think they are on something? I have talked to former assistant coaches of high level D1 college football programs and about 90% of the athletes are on something. Not to mention my best friend was a running back at a D2 program and he said 75% of the team was on something. I think as fans we only care when someone gets caught, but in the back of our mind we know that most of these elite athletes take something illegal. I truly believe as fans we would just rather not know and continue to turn our head to than to face reality.

I don't really care what the athletes do. When caught I prefer them to take their suspention and stfu. I particularly do not want them to get the other people just doing their jobs fired. In this case the sample collector and the mediator both lost jobs while he said he was being wronged.

wiphan 07-23-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 936689)
I don't really care what the athletes do. When caught I prefer them to take their suspention and stfu. I particularly do not want them to get the other people just doing their jobs fired. In this case the sample collector and the mediator both lost jobs while he said he was being wronged.

The arbitrator didn't lose his job because of Braun, the arbitrator lost his job because MLB didn't like the outcome and MLB hires the arbitrator. Dino Laurenzi Jr (sample collector) lost his job because he didn't do it properly thus allowing Braun to win the arbitration. Sometimes when you don't do your job properly or follow all guidelines you lose your job. That is what happens in life. Not to mention that all of this should have happened without our knowledge based on MLB's agreement with the players in regards to testing, results and arbitration. The public should not be aware until the arbitration is already over. MLB has a problem with leaks in their own office. Now with all that said what Braun did was wrong and he deserves what he gets, but to think he is the only major star out there doing this is a joke!

3kings 07-23-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 936720)
The arbitrator didn't lose his job because of Braun, the arbitrator lost his job because MLB didn't like the outcome and MLB hires the arbitrator. Dino Laurenzi Jr (sample collector) lost his job because he didn't do it properly thus allowing Braun to win the arbitration. Sometimes when you don't do your job properly or follow all guidelines you lose your job. That is what happens in life. Not to mention that all of this should have happened without our knowledge based on MLB's agreement with the players in regards to testing, results and arbitration. The public should not be aware until the arbitration is already over. MLB has a problem with leaks in their own office. Now with all that said what Braun did was wrong and he deserves what he gets, but to think he is the only major star out there doing this is a joke!

OK, the mediator was a stretch.

Thank you for explaining job responsibility to me. The fact remains that he knew he was juicing yet insisted on causing a stir which got the tester filed. The test would still have been dirty even if it was handled properly.

This sums it up for me
http://news.yahoo.com/ryan-braun-dop...050550708.html

wiphan 07-23-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 936728)
OK, the mediator was a stretch.

Thank you for explaining job responsibility to me. The fact remains that he knew he was juicing yet insisted on causing a stir which got the tester filed. The test would still have been dirty even if it was handled properly.

This sums it up for me
http://news.yahoo.com/ryan-braun-dop...050550708.html

With $100 of millions of dollars at stake, team in a playoff race (which happens only once every 20 years in Milwaukee), etc he did what he could to get out of it. Did he lie? yes. Was he wrong? yes. Would almost every other athlete of his stature do what he did if faced in the same situation and provided the same legal advice? my guess is in the neighborhood of 95% or more would.

If MLB doesn't leak the information and the public is unaware of the positive test and arbitration process then we wouldn't even be talking about this stuff.

Patrick333 07-24-2013 10:37 AM

Orioles acquire Francisco Rodriguez

The Baltimore Orioles bolstered their bullpen with a late-inning arm Tuesday, acquiring reliever Francisco Rodriguez from the last-place Milwaukee Brewers for minor league infielder Nick Delmonico.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/95...nick-delmonico

declansharbor 07-24-2013 11:51 AM

Someone should hold Aaron Rodgers to his comment as well. Wasn't he willing to wager his salary that his buddy Braun was innocent?

:rolleyes:

MaTH716 07-24-2013 12:54 PM

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Someone should hold Aaron Rodgers to his comment as well. Wasn't he willing to wager his salary that his buddy Braun was innocent?

:rolleyes:

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