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freddymo 11-25-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Let me repeat myself so this is clear. I never said anything about Ken McPeek other than suggest that his horses at the recent Keeneland meet were better than 50k types. You were the one who brought the guy up. Sightseek was the one who had her little temper tantrum after I pointed out her list wasn't relevant (those are horses from his entire training career, not the last meet at Keeneland). If I want to insult or knock Ken McPeek I will do so to him directly. I have no such desire to do so other than to point out his horses may be a little more expensive than you are giving them credit for. He is having a great year and I have nothing bad to say about him here. Nor have I. Since you and sightseek havent backed up your assertion with any tangible evidence I maintain my stance. If you or her or someone else were to provide evidence to the contrary I would say that I was wrong. Get drugs to look it up. Otherwise you are simply making implications about me that simply are not true.

Its a shame you require the Rainman of Racing to prove what you should have witnessed and admired weeks ago. Not a issue, once the Rainman comes back from subway(he had a 15% off coupon) he will rep all the purchase prices of McPeeks special Keeneland meet. Anything else we all can do as a community to enlighten you..lol

A simple "so that is how you do it" will suffice..fair enough?

Cannon Shell 11-25-2009 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
chuck do you get as much vacation time as kenny?

Why is what he does with his free time anybody's business including his owners? He is not a public servant. He isn't paid by taxpayer dollars. How he decides to run his business or spend his time is his decision.

Saturday is the 2nd 2yo day at CD. McPeek has 7 horses in that were sold at public auction. They average $101k. Not that means anything but it is interesting. And no there were no mega prices that skewed the numbers. A high of 180k and a low of 50k.

freddymo 11-25-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
chuck do you get as much vacation time as kenny?

Isn't Chuck retired?

Cannon Shell 11-25-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Its a shame you require the Rainman of Racing to prove what you should have witnessed and admired weeks ago. Not a issue, once the Rainman comes back from subway(he had a 15% off coupon) he will rep all the purchase prices of McPeeks special Keeneland meet. Anything else we all can do as a community to enlighten you..lol

A simple "so that is how you do it" will suffice..fair enough?

Is an overdose even possible anymore?

freddymo 11-25-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Why is what he does with his free time anybody's business including his owners? He is not a public servant. He isn't paid by taxpayer dollars. How he decides to run his business or spend his time is his decision.

Saturday is the 2nd 2yo day at CD. McPeek has 7 horses in that were sold at public auction. They average $101k. Not that means anything but it is interesting. And no there were no mega prices that skewed the numbers. A high of 180k and a low of 50k.

Now your making my point...he stays in the 50 to 100 range

freddymo 11-25-2009 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Is an overdose even possible anymore?

only from allday

freddymo 11-25-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Why is what he does with his free time anybody's business including his owners? He is not a public servant. He isn't paid by taxpayer dollars. How he decides to run his business or spend his time is his decision.

Saturday is the 2nd 2yo day at CD. McPeek has 7 horses in that were sold at public auction. They average $101k. Not that means anything but it is interesting. And no there were no mega prices that skewed the numbers. A high of 180k and a low of 50k.

I wouldnt care if my trainer lived at Atlantis as long as he won..

gales0678 11-25-2009 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Why is what he does with his free time anybody's business including his owners? He is not a public servant. He isn't paid by taxpayer dollars. How he decides to run his business or spend his time is his decision.

Saturday is the 2nd 2yo day at CD. McPeek has 7 horses in that were sold at public auction. They average $101k. Not that means anything but it is interesting. And no there were no mega prices that skewed the numbers. A high of 180k and a low of 50k.


owners can vote with their feet and change if they feel that their investment would be better suited in someone else's barn....after all it's their $$$

so while kenny does not need to punch the clock , some owners are more aware than others about what is and isn't going on

Duvalier 11-25-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
owners can vote with their feet and change if they feel that their investment would be better suited in someone else's barn....after all it's their $$$

so while kenny does not need to punch the clock , some owners are more aware than others about what is and isn't going on

Send em to Jamie Ness.

freddymo 11-25-2009 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
owners can vote with their feet and change if they feel that their investment would be better suited in someone else's barn....after all it's their $$$

so while kenny does not need to punch the clock , some owners are more aware than others about what is and isn't going on

Ok I will bite..So where does McPeek vacation?what's his favorite drink? Does he ski...Shakin or stirred?

freddymo 11-25-2009 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier
Send em to Jamie Ness.

Ness RULES look at the 11 horse in the 4th race at Penn Nat the 28th..What a special move up.. Almost as special as Steven Jerkins Big A winner today..

Duvalier 11-25-2009 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Ness RULES look at the 11 horse in the 4th race at Penn Nat the 28th..What a special move up.. Almost as special as Steven Jerkins Big A winner today..

Yep...he's an excellent all around horseman. He can really move em up the ladder.

Cannon Shell 11-25-2009 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Now your making my point...he stays in the 50 to 100 range

100k types would be correct from now on.

Cannon Shell 11-25-2009 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
only from allday

He never makes mistakes. Just ask him

freddymo 11-25-2009 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier
Yep...he's an excellent all around horseman. He can really move em up the ladder.

As good as it gets.. Took on running 48's now two later 85's.. what is that like one or two rockets in butt?

freddymo 11-25-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
100k types would be correct from now on.

Rainman cometh ..He must have at least 4 between 10 and 80 last meet

Cannon Shell 11-25-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
owners can vote with their feet and change if they feel that their investment would be better suited in someone else's barn....after all it's their $$$

so while kenny does not need to punch the clock , some owners are more aware than others about what is and isn't going on

No one said that the owners can't change barns.

And some owners are delusional and some consistently listen to bad advise while others are great guys and some have class. And then there is Freddy who may fit all of the above.

And McPeek doesnt seem to be doing too bad taking all those supposed vacations.

phystech 11-25-2009 07:09 PM

My wife and my trainer had lunch with McPeek on Md Million Day - both said he was a nice guy.

I trust their instincts...... 8-)

Duvalier 11-25-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
As good as it gets.. Took on running 48's now two later 85's.. what is that like one or two rockets in butt?

How about the job he did off the claim with Zuri's Girl. Takes her off a 20% trainer running 30's and 40's...first time out for him she runs an 80 and wins by 9. Has to rank up there with the best trainers ever.

freddymo 11-25-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He never makes mistakes. Just ask him

its like listening to the leader of the KKk at a UJA fund raiser..

Cannon Shell 11-25-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by phystech
My wife and my trainer had lunch with McPeek on Md Million Day - both said he was a nice guy.

I trust their instincts...... 8-)

I never said he was a nice guy.

Cannon Shell 11-25-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier
How about the job he did off the claim with Zuri's Girl. Takes her off a 20% trainer running 30's and 40's...first time out for him she runs an 80 and wins by 9. Has to rank up there with the best trainers ever.

His day is coming.

freddymo 11-25-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier
How about the job he did off the claim with Zuri's Girl. Takes her off a 20% trainer running 30's and 40's...first time out for him she runs an 80 and wins by 9. Has to rank up there with the best trainers ever.

Yeah that won is a Peta commercial waiting to happen. I can't wait for Tampa

Duvalier 11-25-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Yeah that won is a Peta commercial waiting to happen. I can't wait for Tampa

You better be careful he doesn't claim one from you at Penn...I don't want to see Komodo running in stakes races next month.

freddymo 11-25-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
His day is coming.

I don't think they even take his horses out of their stalls.. its strictly room service. He really does take the cake bakes it too

Duvalier 11-25-2009 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
His day is coming.

He's been getting away with it everywhere though.

Cannon Shell 11-25-2009 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
I don't think they even take his horses out of their stalls.. its strictly room service. He really does take the cake bakes it too

Zaide was on the top of the list. Now that he is gone Ness is next.

Cannon Shell 11-25-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier
He's been getting away with it everywhere though.

He'll slip up eventually.

gales0678 11-25-2009 07:19 PM

chuck while we are on trainers any opinions about Mark Hennig?

feel free to add Freddie if you know anything

freddymo 11-25-2009 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier
You better be careful he doesn't claim one from you at Penn...I don't want to see Komodo running in stakes races next month.

Ask My Lawyer goes on Saturday.. Stokes is listed as owner but DrugS and I really own her. Moving her to Beattie who is certainly a wonderful trainer. She will have her sound in no time. LOL

You see Oneil has a string at Penn now.. Things are getting a bit tougher at the higher levels. You need vermin to earn once you clear thru the BS conditions the racing is real it should be for 40k a pop

Cannon Shell 11-25-2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
chuck while we are on trainers any opinions about Mark Hennig?

feel free to add Freddie if you know anything

He has way better hair than most. Freddy is a terrible trainer and a cheat too.

Sightseek 11-25-2009 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Let me repeat myself so this is clear. I never said anything about Ken McPeek other than suggest that his horses at the recent Keeneland meet were better than 50k types. You were the one who brought the guy up. Sightseek was the one who had her little temper tantrum after I pointed out her list wasn't relevant (those are horses from his entire training career, not the last meet at Keeneland). If I want to insult or knock Ken McPeek I will do so to him directly. I have no such desire to do so other than to point out his horses may be a little more expensive than you are giving them credit for. He is having a great year and I have nothing bad to say about him here. Nor have I. Since you and sightseek havent backed up your assertion with any tangible evidence I maintain my stance. If you or her or someone else were to provide evidence to the contrary I would say that I was wrong. Get drugs to look it up. Otherwise you are simply making implications about me that simply are not true.

Actually in the second link I provided you could have found prices of current runners in the pps and the link you were concentrating did have a few current runners as well, so I thought between the two...

10/29 - Jo Bananas 7k
10/31 - My Baby Baby 50K
10/9 - Orchestrator 75K
10/28 - Orchestrator 75K
10/29 - Moontown (homebred)
10/9 - Moontown (homebred)
10/28 - Petecarol 70K
10/30 - Smarten Destiny RNA 70K
10/31 - Positive Split 42K
10/24 - Striking Dancer 110K
10/21 - Involved ?
10/21 - Sr. Henry ?
10/17 - Connie and Michael 80K
10/15 - House of Grace 100K
10/15 - Emerald Crescent ?
10/14 - Fist of Rage 55K
10/10 - Noble's Promise 10K

freddymo 11-25-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Actually in the second link I provided you could have found prices of current runners in the pps and the one you were concentrating did have a few current runners as well, so I thought between the two the evidence was there...

10/29 - Jo Bananas 7k
10/31 - My Baby Baby 50K
10/9 - Orchestrator 75K
10/28 - Orchestrator 75K
10/29 - Moontown (homebred)
10/9 - Moontown (homebred)
10/28 - Petecarol 70K
10/30 - Smarten Destiny RNA 70K
10/31 - Positive Split 42K
10/24 - Striking Dancer 110K
10/21 - Involved ?
10/21 - Sr. Henry ?
10/17 - Connie and Michael 80K
10/15 - House of Grace 100K
10/15 - Emerald Crescent ?
10/14 - Fist of Rage 55K
10/10 - Noble's Promise 10K


What is DrugS going to do now? OMG Chucky dropped the ball........................................AGAIN

Duvalier 11-25-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Ask My Lawyer goes on Saturday.. Stokes is listed as owner but DrugS and I really own her. Moving her to Beattie who is certainly a wonderful trainer. She will have her sound in no time. LOL

You see Oneil has a string at Penn now.. Things are getting a bit tougher at the higher levels. You need vermin to earn once you clear thru the BS conditions the racing is real it should be for 40k a pop

Yeah I see that. Barry Abrams sent a bunch there too...but they run in some other name...he is just listed as owner. Beattie is definitely a good trainer.

Sightseek 11-25-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
What is DrugS going to do now? OMG Chucky dropped the ball........................................AGAIN

He can fill in the blanks!

freddymo 11-25-2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier
Yeah I see that. Barry Abrams sent a bunch there too...but they run in some other name...he is just listed as owner. Beattie is definitely a good trainer.

I like her the horses never work and if they do it is super slow. More importantly she is well versed in what are and arent medications allowed in Pa. Whatever is allowed is supported with open arms .. the vet is terrific less isnever more unless its against the law.. Once Chuck starts using Rene will see a happy chuck

freddymo 11-25-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
He can fill in the blanks!

He'll spin the facts as usual will hear some crap about private deals the price listed wrong etc etc..

Sightseek 11-25-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
He'll spin the facts as usual will hear some crap about private deals the price listed wrong etc etc..

I averaged them out by removing the homebreds (under a Speightstown cover), repeat winners and the RNA and got 54,333. Granted I still have 4 that I don't know if they were homebreds or not.

Cannon Shell 11-25-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Actually in the second link I provided you could have found prices of current runners in the pps and the link you were concentrating did have a few current runners as well, so I thought between the two...

10/29 - Jo Bananas 7k
10/31 - My Baby Baby 50K
10/9 - Orchestrator 75K
10/28 - Orchestrator 75K
10/29 - Moontown (homebred)
10/9 - Moontown (homebred)
10/28 - Petecarol 70K
10/30 - Smarten Destiny RNA 70K
10/31 - Positive Split 42K
10/24 - Striking Dancer 110K
10/21 - Involved ?
10/21 - Sr. Henry ?
10/17 - Connie and Michael 80K
10/15 - House of Grace 100K
10/15 - Emerald Crescent ?
10/14 - Fist of Rage 55K
10/10 - Noble's Promise 10K

He made 60 something starts, probably 50 horses.

freddymo 11-26-2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He made 60 something starts, probably 50 horses.

Always can count on you!


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