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Danzig 02-11-2009 07:25 PM

ainge is also on the jets roster. i laughed today when they played the clip where lemons said he should get the start because he worked hard the last few years-you don't get to start due to work ethic, you have to be capable as well. whether he proves himself good enough to be #1 or not is the question...then again, there's capable and there's better than the other guys on the team-there is a difference.
at any rate, favre did the jets no favors by coming and playing for a year as far as their QB situation is concerned.

declansharbor 02-11-2009 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
What? Ratted on who? People asked him if he was annoyed at the interceptions and he answered truthfully. He didn't go off on Favre. All he said was "if you're not playing well, you need to come out of the game. You're jeopardizing the team." He said that if he were fumbling the ball, he'd expect to come out. How is that "ratting"?

TJ is one of the hardest workers in the NFL and the ball was ripped out of his hands by this interception machine. If I were him, I would've said a lot more.

That he is. I remember seeing a piece on him mid-year, that dude is straight ripped. I did all but write him off going into the year and he made me look foolish. I'm sure I'll hear it from my brother come fantasy draft time, but I'll retort with Larry Fitz and Roddy White, both guys that he said werent even the best on their respective teams.

As for the QB position, they would be alot better off going into the year using Clemens as plan B. Either way, you'll be better off without that stratus cloud, aka Favre's decisions to lob the ball up for pickins. Leftwich didnt look too bad when asked upon for the Stillers, but can't see him in a Jets jersey. Garcia would be the veteran answer IMO, but at what price? Could definitely see them going QB somehwere in the draft. Rhett Bomar maybe?? Patrick White could be interesting but they already have Brad Smith, so who knows?? Not saying either fit in, just throwing it out there for discussion. Interested to see what direction they go in regards to the position.

As for the defense, I'm looking for that facet of the team to improve dramatically. Pettine Jr. was a HUGE addition and is on his way to becoming a head coach in a few years. He'll be on the same page as Ryan as far as schemes go, which couldnt be said for Mangini and Sutton. They already have pieces in place (Revis and Jenkins to name a few) and can build around them. I'll never forget going to see North Penn(area hs) play (Pettine Jr. was then HC) and my dad telling me to remember this guys name. I never forgot it and here he is. Wish him the best of luck in his new capacity and I'm sure he'll be bringing in the fresh air that Jets fans have been seeking.

Now that is out of the way, thank GOD that BF is done. I dont even want to say or type his name, I'm sick of it. Fade away, like most of your deep balls, and go back to doing movies with Cameron Diaz.

Bigsmc 02-11-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
So no to Garcia, but yes to Leftwich and Simms? Explain.

If you think you are close to being a Super Bowl team, Garcia is a no brainer. Doesn't look like the Bucs are going to try to re-sign him.

declansharbor 02-11-2009 07:46 PM

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If you think you are close to being a Super Bowl team, Garcia is a no brainer. Doesn't look like the Bucs are going to try to re-sign him.

Bigs, what do you think of McCown for the Bucs? I'm thinking he could turn out to be a surprise. His re-signing all but closes the door on Garcia, right?

GBBob 02-11-2009 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
What? Ratted on who? People asked him if he was annoyed at the interceptions and he answered truthfully. He didn't go off on Favre. All he said was "if you're not playing well, you need to come out of the game. You're jeopardizing the team." He said that if he were fumbling the ball, he'd expect to come out. How is that "ratting"?

TJ is one of the hardest workers in the NFL and the ball was ripped out of his hands by this interception machine. If I were him, I would've said a lot more.

I guess I didn't realize I called "TJ"...how cute..."lazy"...

Yeah..and if you didn't have Favre, that game against Miami would have featured a half filled Meadowlands in December. Good luck next year

declansharbor 02-11-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I guess I didn't realize I called "TJ"...how cute..."lazy"...

Yeah..and if you didn't have Favre, that game against Miami would have featured a half filled Meadowlands in December. Good luck next year

I laughed at your avatar. Just dont pull one of DonnyMac puking. ;)

Bigsmc 02-11-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Bigs, what do you think of McCown for the Bucs? I'm thinking he could turn out to be a surprise. His re-signing all but closes the door on Garcia, right?

That's the speculation, that Garcia is gone. I liked him. He protected the ball unbelievable well this year, until the Chargers busted his nose open and he threw two picks quickly after that.

McCown said he wouldn't re-sign unless he was assured of having the opportunity to compete for the starting job. He got the assurance and signed. I would be shocked if he wasn't the starter.

I think the Bucs are trying get younger. Under Chucky/Allen all they did was get older every year.

3kings 02-11-2009 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
So no to Garcia, but yes to Leftwich and Simms? Explain.

I don't think Garcia has the arm strength to succeed in the Meadowlands. I'm not sure about Simms but Leftwich still has a big arm and played pretty well in limited action. He would be my choice behind that O-line.

ateamstupid 02-11-2009 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I guess I didn't realize I called "TJ"...how cute..."lazy"...

Yeah..and if you didn't have Favre, that game against Miami would have featured a half filled Meadowlands in December. Good luck next year

LOL, sorry you still have latent man love for Favre, but that doesn't mean TJ (Cute? Um, everyone calls him that..) was out of line. I'd prefer a player reflect what Jet fans were thinking and saying than give the PC "there are 55 players" response..

Declans, I'll respond to your post later on.

declansharbor 02-11-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
LOL, sorry you still have latent man love for Favre, but that doesn't mean TJ (Cute? Um, everyone calls him that..) was out of line. I'd prefer a player reflect what Jet fans were thinking and saying than give the PC "there are 55 players" response..

Declans, I'll respond to your post later on.

No rush, we have a few months. :D

My season started with the Senior Bowl.

GBBob 02-12-2009 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
LOL, sorry you still have latent man love for Favre, but that doesn't mean TJ (Cute? Um, everyone calls him that..) was out of line. I'd prefer a player reflect what Jet fans were thinking and saying than give the PC "there are 55 players" response..

Declans, I'll respond to your post later on.

Joey..look at the title of the thread, who started it and what I've posted about him. I think I've tried to be pretty objective. My point is that when you sign a home run hitter who strikes out a lot, you know what you're getting. Same story with Favre,..that's all.

And I saw Jones play for several years in Chicago and know how hard a worker he is. But that still won't get him in the HOF and he sure back peddled pretty quickly from his comments so maybe he realized he spoke out of frustration and should have kept quiet.

golfer 02-12-2009 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
So no to Garcia, but yes to Leftwich and Simms? Explain.

Garcia, at best, would be a one year option. Leftwich, who I'm not a huge fan of, MIGHT be a better option. His problem with the Jags was holding on to the ball too long, taking big hits, and getting hurt alot. His overall performance wasn't awful. Simms is a complete guess, you could bring him in to compete for the starting job, certainly wouldn't just hand it to him. I'm OK with giving Clemens or Ratliff the chance to start this season. It just seems based on what I have read that neither has the full backing of Schottenheimer, who would obviously know them best.
I guess it's mostly the known (Garcia), versus the unknown. Also, I don't think it's good for a franchise to change QB's on a yearly basis.

I agree with you about Thomas Jones. He was on the radio to promote his "music", was probably caught a bit off guard with the questions, and his words were absolutely taken out of context.

GBBob 02-12-2009 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by golfer
Garcia, at best, would be a one year option. Leftwich, who I'm not a huge fan of, MIGHT be a better option. His problem with the Jags was holding on to the ball too long, taking big hits, and getting hurt alot. His overall performance wasn't awful. Simms is a complete guess, you could bring him in to compete for the starting job, certainly wouldn't just hand it to him. I'm OK with giving Clemens or Ratliff the chance to start this season. It just seems based on what I have read that neither has the full backing of Schottenheimer, who would obviously know them best.
I guess it's mostly the known (Garcia), versus the unknown. Also, I don't think it's good for a franchise to change QB's on a yearly basis.

I agree with you about Thomas Jones. He was on the radio to promote his "music", was probably caught a bit off guard with the questions, and his words were absolutely taken out of context.

or that

GBBob 05-01-2009 10:29 PM

oh god

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4123764

Coach Pants 05-01-2009 10:31 PM

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I was going to post the day that he was released from the Jets that he would be back...eh f.uck it. He needs to just stay gone.

Danzig 05-02-2009 09:03 AM

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for someone who blubbered like a baby and said he had nothing left to give, he sure keeps on trying to give it.
i can't blame a team the likes of minnesota for attempting to get him. he's still better than a lot of other qb's out there.

King Glorious 05-02-2009 09:25 AM

You can't blame a guy for teams saying they'd be interested if there was a chance.

2 Dollar Bill 05-04-2009 08:37 AM

This is a Timeless thread !

MaTH716 05-05-2009 06:08 PM

Oh, for the love of God already!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4142857

ateamstupid 05-05-2009 06:40 PM

So glad he's not the Jets' problem anymore :)

Coach Pants 05-05-2009 06:44 PM

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So glad he's not the Jets' problem anymore :)

Yeah now you have Dirty Sanchez. Good luck with that one.

Rudeboyelvis 05-05-2009 08:13 PM

Sage Rosenfels gets to carry a clipboard. Again. For 9 million bucks. lol

2 Dollar Bill 05-06-2009 08:08 AM

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Sage Rosenfels gets to carry a clipboard. Again. For 9 million bucks. lol

Where do you find them jobs.. Monster.com ?

GBBob 05-06-2009 08:42 AM

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Where do you find them jobs.. Monster.com ?

www.minnesotavikings.com

hi_im_god 05-06-2009 06:31 PM

i've decided to use this particular thread to announce i won't be posting on the site after this.

i just don't have the passion anymore.

oh... and sob. weep.

Danzig 05-06-2009 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
i've decided to use this particular thread to announce i won't be posting on the site after this.

i just don't have the passion anymore.

oh... and sob. weep.


you've given all you've got to give, you just can't give anymore? cue maudlin music in 3.....2....

pgardn 05-06-2009 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
i've decided to use this particular thread to announce i won't be posting on the site after this.

i just don't have the passion anymore.

oh... and sob. weep.

There are other sites, other message boards to conquer.
I formally invite you to join the Texas Kayak Fishermen.
It will be like a fresh start.
A physical involving your typing
prowess is all we require.

-Cletus Magard (FEO)

3kings 05-07-2009 06:16 PM

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If Favre wants to keep his name in the press, he should just get arrested like everyone else. What an A-hole.

GPK 05-28-2009 08:54 AM

:tro: :tro:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl,166234

MaTH716 05-28-2009 09:05 AM

Not exactly a ringing endorsement. But why doesn't he take the Vikings management to task, for not having a decent QB since Culpepper?

GPK 05-28-2009 09:17 AM

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Not exactly a ringing endorsement. But why doesn't he take the Vikings management to task, for not having a decent QB since Culpepper?

Nice avatar :$:

MaTH716 05-28-2009 09:19 AM

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Nice avatar :$:

Best EVAH!

It took me like 3 hours to do it yesterday :o .
Everyone at me work was like, who the F is that?

GPK 05-28-2009 09:20 AM

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Best EVAH!

It took me like 3 hours to do it yesterday :o .
Everyone at me work was like, who the F is that?

You tell them that is only the best looking dude in Virginia:D

MaTH716 05-28-2009 09:22 AM

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You tell them that is only the best looking dude in Virginia:D

Yeah, sure I did. :rolleyes:

herkhorse 08-18-2009 10:04 AM

good god!

Hickory Hill Hoff 08-18-2009 11:31 AM

Like a "bad penny"......he just doesn't go away! :zz:

2MinsToPost 08-18-2009 02:50 PM

Well, last year here in Columbus, Ohio the Cowboys were on practically every single week no matter the matchup.

Something tells me Minnestoa may be on more then last year:$:

1-9 odds ESPN promotes the Monday Night matchup on 10/5 every other second

Danzig 08-18-2009 03:20 PM

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Yeah now you have Dirty Sanchez. Good luck with that one.


lol
that's what i'd been calling him too....

Danzig 10-05-2009 05:28 PM

just found out that if favre and the vikes win tonite, favre will make history as the first QB to defeat every nfl team.


and while we're on the subject of retired/unretired players, seau will sign with the patriots. again.


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