GR/Brian: Let's wrap this thing up....Liz Michael does sound like a whackjob! But it was a list. As I said, there are others. McDougal wasn't finished testifying with Starr, having being visited last by Susan McDougal before his death. You may blithely disregard these happenings as revengeful political rantings, but I assure that's not the situation with me. The probability of all these things happening around the Clintons' is astronomical,but doesn't make that irreffutable, it draws a circle around the actions of a political machine that won't stop for 2nd place. The recent attacks on Obama,Kerry and others point to the sublety of actions(at whatever price) and her rushed announcement of her candidacy(?)is Modus operandi for this group. But, heh, I just won't vote for her! Pardon my Interruption...I'm just tired of the whole scene right now. btw...Brian: I wasn't denigrating your youth...just the time frame of your reference. Cheers!

Fair enough. I just don't buy it, and have yet to run across anything that would make me change my mind into thinking that somehow the Clintons value their machine to the point of ensuring that people are killed for it. You'd think that $70 million in two senate campaigns against her would have been able to produce some tangible evidence of it. All you'd have to do is prove that they were behind even one of those deaths and her career would be over. Nobody can do that even with $70 million? Pardon my subsequent skepticism.

I'm sure there will be plenty more of these conversations in the coming year or two, so no need to rush for now :D

A short blurb from my Sister-in-Law who works for Corning.

In April 2003, a month after Corning's political action committee gave $10,000 to her re-election campaign, Mrs. Clinton announced legislation that provided hundreds of millions in federal aid to reduce diesel pollution, using, among other things, technology pioneered by Corning. It was one of several Congressional initiatives Mrs. Clinton has pushed that benefit the company.

And in April 2004, Mrs. Clinton began a push to persuade the Chinese government to relax tariffs on Corning fiber optics products, inviting the Chinese ambassador to her office and personally asking President Bush for help in the matter. One month after the beginning of that ultimately successful effort, Corning's chairman, James Houghton, held a fund-raiser at his home that collected tens of thousands of dollars for her re-election campaign....

Corning ... and its employees contributed $137,000 from the time she was elected in 2000 through the end of 2005...

So business got a lot better and the workers felt very gratified. First Democrat to ever receive money from Corning. Heck, 10,000 bucks, they just loaded her up didnt they Cannon? Drop in the bucket compared to what Rep. received from this company. BTW, Clinton intitiated the contact after reading about the problem and before any money came in for her re-election. So you did not benefit and no one you know has... I guess that covers NY.

Again it is very easy to criticize and not find anything positive about the party or person you dont particularly like. So we play this game of destruction instead of asking about anything positive. Which is exactly why politicians use Ads to slay opponents, instead of stating what they have done and will do. Its much easier to bust a bridge apart than to build one. Thats why I hate politics. Because as one reads this thread, it is clear that kicking is easier than applying a cast.

Its the same thing Dems do with Iraq. And your plan? Oh... the plans start to arise after Bush has made a decision about how to clean up a mess. But first all we do is just scream about the mess, with now idea how to clean the mess up.
Just leave Iraq immediately. Quite a plan... Very well thought out. Less well thought out than the plan to send only 120,000 troops in the first place, when 350,000 were recommended by a number of Generals. How many Democrats stood up and said this is clearly not enough troops after voting yes...?
I prefer builders, not destroyers. So lets see the smearing continue... because its so damn easy.

i suggest you read "inside the clinton white house'......trailer trash in the white house...lmfao...and osama..hes never going to get the popular vote...

i like to refer to her as ol beer keg legs...lol

a MILF she is not:eek: :eek:

If that dumb biatch gets elected , Im moving to Canada.

OMG....I think I love you:D

Hope your well hun...

LOL you are too funny :D

my most endearing quality:cool:

well at least you have one.......:p

are you emphasizing ONE??


Hows TTM?

LOL , no Im just saying some peeps have none, at least you have one, and Im sure there is more than just a sense of humor that is endearing.

Tinny is just hangin out at Farrell Jone's in a grass paddock , he gets put up at night with a blankey Im sure ;) .
I havent seen the farm book to know when he is coming back in for sure,
( when I say farm book, Mandella has a file or account of every horse he see's so there are usually updates added by the secretary of progress and stuff). Im thinking he will prolly be out at least another 45 days or so maybe longer , I mean whats the hurry anyway LOL he'e only 9.

can we consider a full set of teeth another?? I seem to be in the minority in that department out here:D

Where are you living west Virginia ?:D

close...about 30 miles from the border....but please don't tell anyone, might ruin my reputation:o

But at least you can marry your cousin legally there or is it your sister ? :p

both...but has to be at the same time. Utah of the East:D

It's a fair point about the Dems and Iraq, pgardn, and while I'm sure there's a great deal of schadenfreude, watching Bush, after all his nasty, divisive campaigns, imploding in on his own incompetency, it sure isn't helping the situation over there.

If you were a Dem, (or a Repub, for that matter, in this hypothetical it doesn't matter) with a great interest in keeping your job, what would you do in this situation? A majority of Americans want the troops out now, and the situation over there be damned. Any sort of increase in troops is a hugely unpopular decision. So, how would you go about stating your case that what is needed is more young men and women over there? I don't mean this as an accusation, so no throwing insults, Bababooyee (teasing wink). It's a real question.

(I agree with the position, by the way, that more troops were needed, not fewer, but I think the time was back in 2003 and I'm not sure if it would make any difference now. I wonder if the Dems are sitting back and watching the thing implode because they really have no idea how to fix this mess. I don't.)