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Scav 06-14-2006 08:59 PM

I don't think Empire Maker ever showed his best. He is going to be the next HUGE stallion, bigger then Giant's Causeway.

Togacapper 06-14-2006 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
It isn't really fair to compare the three year olds to the older horse. EM, SJ, and AA weren't raced as older horses so you won't ever know just how talented they were. I will say that GZ was one of those horses that only come around every once in awhile. He was a freakishly talented horse.

LOL... Freak isn't the word

kentuckyrosesinmay 06-14-2006 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I don't think Empire Maker ever showed his best. He is going to be the next HUGE stallion, bigger then Giant's Causeway.

I think that the next huge stallion is going to be Orientate.

Togacapper 06-14-2006 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I don't think Empire Maker ever showed his best. He is going to be the next HUGE stallion, bigger then Giant's Causeway.

One of my favorite ever Scav The Giant..

ArlJim78 06-15-2006 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Davona Dale
Okay here goes! Someone told me to just jump right in and that there are no stupid questions.

I watched the Belmont and thought the horse that won Jazil had a tremendous "kick" or am I not understanding the term?

Actually you're right on both accounts. There are no stupid questions and yes Jazil had a very good closing kick to win the Belmont. That's what the term means, a late burst of speed in the race.

ArlJim78 06-15-2006 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Davona Dale
Hot dog! My first comment and I didn't make a total fool of myself. What a great way to start the day. Thank you so much for responding.

I watched the Derby and saw this horse go from last place to 4th place in a blink of an eye. I'm told he doesn't weigh much but that's good when they are running in these longer races.

I hear the term classic distance. Is that the distances run in the Triple Crown or is it just the long race in the Belmont?

Don't worry about posting questions or making a fool of yourself. People will generally be pretty civil towards you. You'll do fine. Everyone here asks questions at some point or another. Heck I have stupid questions at times and I've been doing this a long time!

The Classics are races like the Kentucky Derby, The Belmont, and the Breeders Cup Classic. I'm not entirely sure how many distances are considered classic, but I do know that 1 1/4 miles (10 furlongs) is considered the classic distance. That is the distance of the Kentucky Derby and the Breeder Cup Classic.

Like I said the Belmont at 1 1/2 miles (12 furlongs) may also be considered a classic distance, I'm just not sure. Others will know for sure.

thanks

Bogey 06-15-2006 07:27 AM

Daylami '99 BC Turf at Gulfstream
Afleet Alex a few times.
Monarchos '01 Florida Derby
Crytoclearance deep closer
Megahertz always brought it.

Just a few that come to mind.

flowing tail 06-15-2006 08:23 AM

Some people are calling the Travers a "classic" now, but i have no idea why I always thought that was reserved for the races you just mentioned.

brockguy 06-15-2006 10:27 AM

just remembered this now. DEEP IMPACT, the champ in Japan and possible the best horse in the world in his last race coasted home in the 2m Tenno Show. around 7 furlongs out, he went 4 wide from 2nd or 3rd last to lead and clocked an unreal 33.5 secs for the last 3 furlongs. Thats some closing kick. He lowered the course record by a second to 3mins13.4. He was unreal. You can view this race and many others by going to http://japanracing.jp/information/list2006.html

31lengths 06-17-2006 05:59 AM

Todo Ca Toda Ca Toda Ca Toda Ca!!!!

Pedigree Ann 06-17-2006 07:14 AM

If one wants to go on a single closing performance, I would have to go with Just James' run in the Coral Eurobet Sprint Handicap on 25May2002 at Newmarket over the straight 6f. To quote the Racing Post chart:

A fiercely competitive event, and an astonishing win by JUST JAMES, who was detached from the pack with a couple of furlongs to go and seemingly an also-ran. He found a tremendous burst down the middle of the track in the final furlong - having been switched from the far rails - to get up in the final strides as several of those who tried to stay with the strong pace hit the wall.

This horse looked totally beaten with the finish in sight and just ran right by the 19 other horses in the field. He went on to win the G3 Jersey S at Royal Ascot two starts later.

Downthestretch55 06-18-2006 05:23 PM

Might not be the best ever for sure, but Saballina looked very good in the 8th today at Bel.

sumitas 06-18-2006 07:02 PM

Seek Gold was a tremendous close.

randallscott35 06-18-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Seek Gold was a tremendous close.

An illusion. Everyone stopped in front of him, including PD who pulled himself up.

ArlJim78 06-18-2006 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
just remembered this now. DEEP IMPACT, the champ in Japan and possible the best horse in the world in his last race coasted home in the 2m Tenno Show. around 7 furlongs out, he went 4 wide from 2nd or 3rd last to lead and clocked an unreal 33.5 secs for the last 3 furlongs. Thats some closing kick. He lowered the course record by a second to 3mins13.4. He was unreal. You can view this race and many others by going to http://japanracing.jp/information/list2006.html

Brock, thanks for the link. That was an impressive race although I have no idea how strong the field was. There were some very long odds on the board.
But I agree with you DI looked to be a beast and just wreaks of class.
Do you happen to know what his plans are for the year?

brockguy 06-18-2006 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Brock, thanks for the link. That was an impressive race although I have no idea how strong the field was. There were some very long odds on the board.
But I agree with you DI looked to be a beast and just wreaks of class.
Do you happen to know what his plans are for the year?

Yeah its tough to say how good the field is. usually alot of two mile races are filled with horses too slow for shorter distances, but i believe the first 3 home were genuine g1 horses. Deep Impact will be heading for the Arc in October and a fascinating clash with Hurricane Run is expected. He has only been beaten once by Hearts Cry on christmas day last year and considered unlucky as rider went for home too late. Hearts Cry beat Ouija Board et al in dubai and is on course for the King George at Ascot in July where he'll meet Hurricane Run. So it will give us an indication of how strong Deep Impact is.

sumitas 06-18-2006 07:55 PM

Deep Impact could be the best bred horse in the world.

brockguy 06-18-2006 08:29 PM

when deep impact won the japanese triple crown last year in the japanese st leger over 1m7f,those who put 100 yen on him to win got back 100 yen. no profit. amazing

Thunder Gulch 06-18-2006 08:46 PM

Watch the 2000 BC Juvenile and Point Given's charge down the stretch. He never trailed much after that, but he sure could finish when on. His Belmont was another amazing burst of speed when he came off the turn.

belmont park is the best 06-18-2006 09:27 PM

I'm telling you go watch artie schiller's race first out!!!

6f on the turf LAST AT THE TOP OF THE STRETCH! mig still sitting and everything, he knew he had a loaded gun I guess. He explodes and catches see lathem who had opened up by 4. Artie made up at least 17 lengths.


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