Time to throw in the towel on that one bud. You've got some decent opinions, but holding onto that one just ends up cancelling all of them out.

Delaware Handicap Grade 1....1 1/4 miles dirt for 3 and up fillies and mares on July 15, 2017 is the next race for Songbird. How many runners will show up????

a lot, reading twitter she is very vulnerable

Kind of like the way Rambo was vulnerable in first blood ? She will run them off their feet and break their spirit forever.

That was seriously an awesome reference!

The only horse nominated that has any chance is Paid Up Subscriber. As you know, the Stakes races for that division are always very thin. I think Dallas Stewart made a mistake not taking her on at 1 1/4 with Forever Unbridled.

Which is interesting, if I wanted to face her during the season (non BC) I would prefer to do it at 10 furlongs.

Mike Smith on the First Ballot Hall of Famer:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-with-songbird

Field is pitiful. Im sure she will fire her usual 96 and win.

Songbird is a classic litmus test horse for people that get fooled by wins.

Zenyatta is a much better example.

Winning is the name of the game.

Dallas Stewart is smart not running his mare against this superstar filly who would break her spirit forever. ( pun intended)

Maybe you should have been paying attention last summer when she was right under your nose. You might have learned something that would pick up your game. Try looking at the actual hoss flesh and try to expand your game. It's not all racing forms and replays. It's not just you watching replays with a couple of guys at the replay booth or center. Everyone can click and watch any replay they want. Your bread and butter is much more accessible than ever and you must adjust or get left behind. You must know that you're slipping. Watch Songbird tomorrow. Try to see her greatness. Think back to Go For Wand. Even a rockhead could take one look at her and know she was special. Like a gift from God. Remember how exciting ng it was to see her in the flesh. Songbird might be that good.

Zen

Passed all she faced except one. And just missed. Ran by Every hoss in every race. What is it you are missing ?

Reasonable analogy.

However, at least Songbird runs in the right races and travels. It's not her fault her competition last year was ( outside of the BC ) a joke. She also has dangerous speed. But, undefeated records are pretty much due to a confluence of events which rate to include a lot of luck....especially when the horses with those records aren't particularly fast.

Even last year, after Arrogate clearly demonstrated the difference between mediocre supposed divisional leaders and actual greatness, the confusion regarding Songbird continues.

Back to back breeders cup classics are not the right races ?

It's a travesty they didn't bring Zenyatta to Saratoga, but don't blame the hoss.

Well I certainly agree with 4 words of the post "might be that good"...Will see maybe too date she isnt very fast but she may take a step forward

I feel like I accidentally tuned in to a TV Evangelist broadcast.

Oh, it was no accident on your part. Reading it is much like rubber necking an accident you drive by on the road.

Yeah, that wasn't good. Reeks of Rachel Alexandra as a 4-year-old.

I don't like the way she was walking after the race :(