The 2 posters bragging about how terrific it is are the takers that don't put anything into the system. Rather than questioning why a Hospital charged Obamacare 16K for a procedure, they smugly scoff about how they "made out" while you bear the brunt of their costs.

It will be refreshing when the Insurance Lobbies don't have the White House in their back pocket and the Insurance Companies will actually have to "compete" for business, thus lower health care costs.

Doubly refreshing when it will take an orange-skinned misogynist with no ties to, thus owing no favors to the insurance industry, to make it happen.

What does the statement I highlighted mean?

he seems to think I'm unemployed. that's hilarious. and my healthcare is thru UHC, for which I pay. we sure don't qualify for any subsidies. the reason I put what I did, is people like to bitch and bash on insurance....til they need it.
came back before I was supposed to, because this office is my 'baby'. we've had health insurance, tony and I, for the entire 30 years we've been married, and both were in military at the time. been paying into the system since I was a teen, worked before I graduated high school.

what is amazing to me, is when i disagree with someone, and then they paint an entire picture about me.
I'm not obese, not a taker, have been a responsible adult who raised three kids, served my country..... I own a home, on which I pay taxes, 42 acres on a lake, 2 business locations. he's an electrician. but yeah, I'm a taker. :rolleyes:

as for the other taker...so, we work, we retire, we get on medicare at 65....paid into the system, but then we're takers??? surely not!

:tro::tro:...My story is similar...been retired for some time and wife and I are on medicare...and we are both AF vets...

They both (one of them in particular) spends a great deal of time in this thread spreading misinformation about the benefits of ACA, yet neither has seen their premiums increase upwards of 60% as a result.

They smugly brag about how little they pay out of pocket while the small business owners and the working class of this country w/o company offered discounted health insurance have been not only forced to enroll, but now pay upwards of 1000.00 a month for crappier insurance that they used to pay 500.00 a month for.

And would rather talk down to the folks getting screwed than question why it is so absurd in the first place.

Typical socialists.

a lot of people say the best insurance they've ever gotten is once they are on medicare. that everything til that point is high, premium and then the bills. too true. we pay about 1400 a month for the two of us. but, in the last two years, I've hit my deductible both years, he has this year. my neck surgery was about 30k, and then I'm still getting bills for this. thankfully we had it.

I just hope for the day of single payer. because, altho more people than ever are insured because of the aca, the plan is untenable. it won't work in the long run. in some places, it already isn't working in the short run. it's a convoluted mess. but, it's still better than not having insurance at all....and I'm sure a lot of the people still without coverage are in that spot because they live in a state that didn't expand Medicaid. they don't make enough for a subsidy...they're screwed.

In addition to UHC, Aetna now dropping out of 70% of the ACA markets:

>>>Aetna Inc. will withdraw from 11 of the 15 states where it currently offers plans through the Affordable Care Act exchanges, becoming the latest of the major national health insurers to pull back sharply from the law’s signature marketplaces after steep financial losses.

Aetna’s move will sharpen concerns about competitive options in the exchanges—and it puts at least one county, Pinal in Arizona, at risk of having no insurers offering exchange plans in 2017, a circumstance that would present a major challenge to the basic mechanics of the ACA.

The law mandates that most people acquire health coverage, and offers subsidies to lower-income consumers who don’t qualify for Medicaid. To obtain the subsidies, though, people are supposed to purchase their plans through ACA exchanges.<<<

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...t-markets.html

But you can...keep.....your.......Doc........Nevermind :(

SHOT: "The Illinois Department of Insurance said Wednesday it has submitted rate increases to the federal government that for some types of plans average 43 percent to 55 percent.

The Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services will decide rates. But the numbers released Wednesday confirm the fears of consumers, who’ve already watched a number of insurance companies withdraw from the Obamacare exchange because of financial losses, limiting choices as people prepare to enroll for 2017.

Rates could increase by an average of 44 percent for the lowest-priced bronze plans, 45 percent for the lowest-priced silver plans and 55 percent for the lowest-priced gold plans, according to a preliminary analysis released by the state Wednesday."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...824-story.html

CHASER: Obamacare Website No Longer Addresses 'You Can Keep Your Doctor'
http://www.weeklystandard.com/obamac...rticle/2003956

It's working.

If you like your doctor well you can go f.uck yourself.

Meanwhile, my GP told me during my annual that he is changing his practice to a "concierge model." I can remain his patient for $1,850 a year. I see him on average 1.5 times a year, so ~$1,233 a visit. He seemed surprised when I told him I won't be signing up. :p

https://www.whitehouse.gov/health-ca...itlei/exchange

Yeah, it STILL says that. :zz:


http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Column...onsumer-Choice

http://www.aei.org/publication/a-pub...bly-the-point/

https://youtu.be/LAf0QnLFS7Q

Add Indiana University Health Plans to the growing list of companies leaving the ACA.

Oh boy, the rats are jumping ship.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...zy-system.html

“The people … out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half,” Clinton said. “It’s the craziest thing in the world.” ~ William Jefferson Clinton 10/3/2016

No sh1t, Bubba. Ya don't say?

OBAMA ADMINISTRATION CONFIRMS DOUBLE-DIGIT PREMIUM HIKES

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-24-17-03-27

"In some states, the premium increases are striking. In Arizona, unsubsidized premiums for a hypothetical 27-year-old buying a benchmark "second-lowest cost silver plan" will jump by 116 percent, from $196 to $422, according to the administration report."

That's not bad. LOL

https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Healthcare_Reform.pdf

Plans to repeal this mess....

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/health-care/

plans to make AHC better

This is one of the major issues I will be basing my vote on

Think about this...
By 2026 one-fourth of our population will be on Medicaid or the Children’s Health Insurance Program. [Congressional Budget Office, March 2016)