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SniperSB23 10-12-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I'll take Race 3 tomorrow.

The 15-1 pacesetter held on for 2nd. I was close.

Honu 10-12-2006 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I haven't heard any reports from Woodbine so I can't comment on it. I can tell you that everyone loves the track at Hollywood Park so far. I think the reports from Kentucky have been quite positive too.

With regard to Keeneland, there used to be a huge speed bias. If there is an anti-speed bias now, that's not so bad. I don't care what the bias is. As long as we know what the bias is, then we can deal with it.

I don't really have an opinion one way or the other when it comes to polytrack. I can tell you that the surfaces in Southern California have been really bad for a long time now and we needed to do something. I would rather have polytrack than what we have had for the last several years. Anything is better than what we have had for the last several years. It would have probably been better if we could have put in good, new dirt tracks but I don't think anyone had confidence that the job would have been done right.

I dont really think the tracks are so bad per say here in Cali but how they are maintained and how horseman train.
You can look any day of the week and more horses work at So. Cali . racetracks each day than anywhere else in the nation.
The trackman with dirt surface racing has control of all the factors , I cant tell you how many days the track will be one way and then all of a sudden its a diffirent way, I dont mind that they dig it up but jeez could you please add a little more water to it so it isnt so damn cuppy. The biggest bonus I see with Polytrack is that basically it takes care of itself without much human intervention, I think that its a very big key that you dont have some trackman deeming how he wants the track to be.

Pointg5 10-12-2006 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
I dont really think the tracks are so bad per say here in Cali but how they are maintained and how horseman train.
You can look any day of the week and more horses work at So. Cali . racetracks each day than anywhere else in the nation.
The trackman with dirt surface racing has control of all the factors , I cant tell you how many days the track will be one way and then all of a sudden its a diffirent way, I dont mind that they dig it up but jeez could you please add a little more water to it so it isnt so damn cuppy. The biggest bonus I see with Polytrack is that basically it takes care of itself without much human intervention, I think that its a very big key that you dont have some trackman deeming how he wants the track to be.

Why do they train so much in California as opposed to places like Belmont?
That's interesting, I didn't realize that...

Downthestretch55 10-12-2006 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
Why do they train so much in California as opposed to places like Belmont?
That's interesting, I didn't realize that...

I don't know about Cali training. But you might be interested in knowing that there was a lot of training going on at Belmont while the Toga meet was full steam ahead. There are currently horses in training at Toga and AQ.
The "little guys" get bumped out of their stalls when the meet shows up, but at least they get to use the track for a while.

sumitas 10-12-2006 02:30 PM

the first 4 races today the fav has won twice, 2nd once, 3rd once...

Rupert Pupkin 10-12-2006 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
I dont really think the tracks are so bad per say here in Cali but how they are maintained and how horseman train.
You can look any day of the week and more horses work at So. Cali . racetracks each day than anywhere else in the nation.
The trackman with dirt surface racing has control of all the factors , I cant tell you how many days the track will be one way and then all of a sudden its a diffirent way, I dont mind that they dig it up but jeez could you please add a little more water to it so it isnt so damn cuppy. The biggest bonus I see with Polytrack is that basically it takes care of itself without much human intervention, I think that its a very big key that you dont have some trackman deeming how he wants the track to be.

The problem may have been due to human error. I don't know. I do know that Del Mar was extremely dangerous this year and around 30 or 40 horses had to be put down.

I know that we were having trouble keeping a lot of our horses sound at all three tracks and these horses were only in light training. We were having horses come back from an easy breeze with really puffy ankles. You don't see that on polytrack.

Rupert Pupkin 10-12-2006 02:54 PM

We have a 2 year old whose feet were getting really sore at Santa Anita last month. He was body sore too. We moved him over to Hollywood and within a week or so he was doing great. He's not sore at all any more. The track at Santa Anita is not forgiving at all.

sumitas 10-12-2006 04:39 PM

wow, i'm glad he's lovin the new surface.


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