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Gander 09-05-2006 07:13 PM

Scuds,
Stop acting like an old hen and give me your thoughts on the Pirates Bounty tomorrow. It would be a feather in your cap if you could provide me the winner.

GPK 09-05-2006 07:15 PM

Scuds....don't mention Delta Sea around Gander.:eek: :eek:

Gander 09-05-2006 07:17 PM

LOL. I would have just lost that at that skumhole you made me go to last night!

GPK 09-05-2006 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
LOL. I would have just lost that at that skumhole you made me go to last night!


If you wouldn't have made me drink all those beers, I wouldn't have felt like going there.

"and it's Limoncella and Eibar Coa......" F me:(

Gander 09-05-2006 07:20 PM

Its a good thing for me the Pirates Bounty is a mere 23 hours away.
Payback time for old Gander.

heh heh heh heh....

GPK 09-05-2006 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Its a good thing for me the Pirates Bounty is a mere 23 hours away.
Payback time for old Gander.

heh heh heh heh....


"I'm done until October 7th" Gander at 6:50a.m. this morning on the way to the airport.:D :D

Rupert Pupkin 09-05-2006 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Well no, it wasn't worse than Milwaukee. Kent made one stupid mistake in that race. Gomez made 14 or 15 in his ride on Milwaukee. Rupert has an agenda, so dont listen to him so far as GG(you can listen to him on everything else), he has the audacity to say she had no run when clear!! LOL!!!! Well geez, after steadying and being choked 14 or 15 times for 11 panels of a 12 panel race, horses tend not to fire so hot the last 1/8th.:rolleyes:

I don't think Desormeaux made a mistake at all. I would take back every time going into the clubhouse turn rather than fight it out head and head on the lead.

With regard to Milwaukee, the horse had a ton of traffic trouble that day. There is no doubt about that. Come-from-behinders get into traffic trouble sometimes. There is no way to avoid it. Gomez drops further back than a lot of the other jockeys. The strategy obviously works well. Look at his win percentage. If you come from dead-last, you can either circle the field and go five-wide or you can try to save ground. If you try to save ground, you will get into trouble sometimes. So Gomez will probably get into a little more trouble than jockeys who won't drop that far back, but so what? It's a winning strategy overall. Who cares if he gets into trouble and blows a race once in while. He makes up for it by winning 4 other races that the other jockeys would have never won on the same horse. It's like complaining about a home-run hitter who struck out 50 times. If he has 40 home-runs and you compare him to a guy with 20 home-runs and 40 strike-outs, I'd rather strike out a few more times if I could hit an extra 20 home-runs.

With regards to Milwaukee, I know Oracle will disagree but I think she was really rank that day. A jockey is going to have no choice but to continuously check if his horse is rank in trafffic.

Gander 09-05-2006 07:41 PM

Stand up and salute the Captain! I've been waiting my whole life to bet this race.

Gander 09-05-2006 07:44 PM

Relaxed Gesture wasnt beating Go Deputy that day with any type of ride but he surely could have held off Gray Whistle for 2nd. Kent D is a very average rider who has his head up his ass. Problem is all these broads chasing him around. Hes got a little following, makes the Backstreet Boys look like your typical degenerate gambling track hanger outer.

GPK 09-05-2006 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Stand up and salute the Captain! I've been waiting my whole life to bet this race.


Bullsh*t....you have been waiting since Point Ashley kicked you in the nuts last night to bet this race.

Next time we go to the harness track to bet simulcast...I want it to be while they are actually running at the track there too.

dalakhani 09-05-2006 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Come on Rupert, that ride by Kent D. in the Sword Dancer was awful. It wasn't his first time on the horse, and RG has always struck me as a horse who does his best making one run, ala the Manhatten this year, and Canadian Int'l last year. He didn't take back in the early stages, then wrestled him back 5 furlongs in, I think he took out the fight in the horse by doing it. I think he would have been better off staying with the pace, or taking back at the beginning of the race.

But what do you do if the horse breaks sharper than usual and is keen for the lead? If he stays on the engine and slows down in the stretch, everyone is calling Kent an idiot for not taking back. He was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time with that horse.

Horses like Relaxed Gesture find ways to lose. He will be overbet AGAIN in the next race and he will find another way to lose.

Gander 09-05-2006 07:46 PM

Not going back there ever. Ever. Place is a pit. You wanna go there next time you come up here, be my guest. I'll leave the light on. No way for me.

Gander 09-05-2006 07:47 PM

Horses like Relaxed Gesture find ways to lose. He will be overbet AGAIN in the next race and he will find another way to lose.

Couldnt agree more. This horse is a money burning hanging no good barn animal. I'm sticking with the Tin Man. Hes a real horse.

GPK 09-05-2006 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Not going back there ever. Ever. Place is a pit. You wanna go there next time you come up here, be my guest. I'll leave the light on. No way for me.


I just don't see what there isn't to like....plenty of secondhand smoke, cardboard style pizza (which taste really good after alot of beer), semi-cold draft beer...

2MinsToPost 09-05-2006 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
I just don't see what there isn't to like....plenty of secondhand smoke, cardboard style pizza (which taste really good after alot of beer), semi-cold draft beer...

semi cold draft beer

equals

me wanting to upchuck

2MinsToPost 09-05-2006 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
"I'm done until October 7th" Gander at 6:50a.m. this morning on the way to the airport.:D :D

I'm done till I get paid again. I refuse to lie anymore. I am such a loser at times. But I will say this, proclaim it and probably live to regret it, I will cash a Pick 4 sometime soon that pays more then $30 and will cash a Pick 3 that pays more then $3.80 on a dollar. :o double that face

I will not be playing anyhting this weekend cause my annual trip to Eldora Speedway to partake in the biggest short track event each year is upon me, oh yeah lots of women who are attractive and even have teeth, etc, nevermind


Time to finish up my little project which is cleaning the bathroom

SCUDSBROTHER 09-05-2006 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Scuds,
Stop acting like an old hen and give me your thoughts on the Pirates Bounty tomorrow. It would be a feather in your cap if you could provide me the winner.

I'll take Sal Gonzalez and Proud Cardenal.Btch ain't gunna hide one on me anymore.If he doesn't fire,so be it.

Gander 09-05-2006 08:38 PM

I have never heard of Proud Cardenal Scuds. Sounds like as good as any. I'll
try him. Thanks.


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