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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan (Post 741372)

Politicizing this is simply a joke. People died at the hands of a gutless nut!
He is another example of a person who probably received a large amount of undeserved self-esteem builders. This guy had red flags all over him as he could not cope with life in general. Hopefully, justice will give this man what he really needs. My thoughts are with the families of the innocent victims in this tragedy.

:tro::tro::tro:

Its pathetic that the media is using this for political advantage. The guy was a psycho, not a "tea partier" or "progressive"

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 741420)

My thoughts and prayers to the victims of this senseless violence and their families. We can debate "fault" another day and to be sure, there is plenty to go around from all sides. I'm not ready to declare the shooter a "nut" just yet, lets see what unfolds...not everyone who acts in a reckless, vicious manner can escape judgement as a "nut"....there is such a thing as evil.

this guy was obviously insane. evil and insane

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 741420)

he Somer... I was told you were dead. Congratulations on being alive.

I guess

Yes, now that the "nut" has been proven not to be of the Tea Party, Sarah Palin or anything pro-Constitution lets stop talking about blame.

shameless dems... accuse people of rhetoric while using rhetoric

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 741433)

yet you're willing to join the fray

Not at all - just pointing out the ridiculousness of those who want to blame Sarah Palin's graphic as a reason for this tragedy.

OK Dem'ers and GOP'ers we are all safe from blame.

This nutjob was registered as an Independent.

I never trusted anybody that likes to play for both teams :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 741317)

It was someone who called me nuts and full of **it because I said I believed in the devil. That's something my religious background taught me, and I strongly believe that the devil does exist and people fight him every day by way of their conscience. Want to go after my religious beliefs, as well? Take your best shot. It does not shake my confidence or my belief.

Damn, my bad Princess. I apologize. That wasn't nice of me and I take it back. I didn't mean to offend.

In fact, once I ate too many mushrooms and came face to face with the Devil. It was not a pretty sight. After a long and arduous fight, I drove him back in his hole and haven't heard from him since.

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 741469)

I didn't mean to offend.

Of course you meant to offend - the devil made you do it.

Just like the devil made Obama do this...

Ror !! That Bastard !!

anyone recall the outrage over this quote? I didn't think so.

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"That Scott down there that's running for governor of Florida," Mr. Kanjorski said. "Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him.

compliments of dem rep Kanjorski.

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78 (Post 741392)

It's high time to quell the hateful violent rhetoric. Let's start at the top.

“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!” Obama on ACORN Mobs, March 2010

and i thought to myself: "wtf? there were acorn mobs?"

it took me 30 seconds to google the quote and it's context:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/21/us...cs/21memo.html

“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry. I’m angry,” Mr. Obama said, his voice reaching a peak seven days after learning of the bonuses given to employees of the American International Group. “What I want to do, though, is channel our anger in a constructive way.”

good contribution, jim. well researched as usual.

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78 (Post 741499)

anyone recall the outrage over this quote? I didn't think so.
compliments of dem rep Kanjorski.

I do. He's a crazy jackass, and he lost as he deserved.

You do realize that the, "If your friends jumped off the bridge, would you too?" defense didn't work with your mother, and doesn't work in the real world of political discourse now, right?

And BTW - very few big-name writers, writing in the media, have actually - truely - blamed Palin, Angle, etc. for this. That's a lie being repeated. Like the lie that the Sheriff in AZ "politicized" the conversation (he did not mention any political party, nor right, left, center, etc., in his Saturday statement against vitriolic rhetoric).

It was Giffords father who brought up the Tea Party, when asked if his daughter had any enemies, he responded, "The whole tea party". Only the Sheriff and Giffords (and her family) know the kind of threats she was getting. We don't.

Is the left wing bringing up past public statements calling for violence by those on the right? Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc? Yes, they surely are. It's a good time to do so. And yes, people like Kanjorski need to be there, too.

"“We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us.” Obama to Latinos, October 2010"

from jim.

“If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,’ if they don’t see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election, then I think it’s gonna be harder and that’s why I think it’s so important that people focus on voting on November 2.”

and the actual violence laced quote.

ACORN? People are still freaking out about that? Turns out the pimp was a complete fake, he was kicked out and the police were called on him for his illegal activities at multiple ACORN offices, and he edited the tape to make ACORN look bad.

The New Black Panther Party - a Faux News creation of fear-mongering, two scary black dudes standing outside a voting place.

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 741508)

arlington jim made his usual 30 second drop in by posting alleged obama quotes from some right wing blog. i love the idea that someone can look at a quote of the president urging on a violent acorn mob and think "yeah! that really happened!"

Is Dallas responsible for Oswald's actions? Of course not. But should that type of violent rhetoric be tolerated, be part of the political discourse? Of course not.

If nobody remembers, Kennedy was warned by staff not to go to Dallas, they feared for his safety.

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The Warren Commission made several findings in its report. One of its conclusions least remembered by the public today is this: Dallas was not to blame for Kennedy’s assassination or Oswald’s subsequent murder (while in police custody) by Jack Ruby.

Yes, back in 1963-64 the city of Dallas was suspected of somehow sharing responsibility for the killing, at least indirectly, because it fostered hatred for the president. As the report stated: “It has been suggested that one of the motivating influences operating on Lee Oswald was the atmosphere in the City of Dallas, especially an atmosphere of extreme opposition to President Kennedy…”

The Warren Commission examined right-wing extremism in Dallas and found it to be strong and prevalent. The report referred to Dallas’s “reputation of the twenties as ‘the Southwest hate capital of Dixie.’” There had been ugly confrontations when Johnson came to Dallas as a vice-presidential candidate during the 1960 campaign, and again when Adlai Stevenson came to the city in October 1963.

Virulent right-wing leaders in Dallas gave lectures and speeches denouncing the Kennedy Administration. In the days before the presidential motorcade was to parade through Dallas, ads appeared in the city’s newspapers condemning Kennedy, as well as nasty editorials and letters to the editors.

Security officials were especially concerned about a handbill that was circulated and posted in Dallas on Nov. 21, 1963, the day before Kennedy appeared and was assassinated. Beneath two photographs of the president, one from the front and one in profile, was the bold headline: WANTED FOR TREASON. The handbill said: “This man is wanted for treasonous activities against the United States.” It then listed seven charges against Kennedy, including “betraying the Constitution,” “turning the sovereignty of the U.S. over to communist-controlled United Nations,” and giving “support and encouragement to the communist-inspired racial riots.”

The Warren Commission report was released to the public on a Sunday afternoon. The next day, it was front page news for newspapers all across the country. Like everywhere else, the report’s conclusion that Oswald acted alone was on the front page of the Dallas papers. In addition, the city’s leading paper carried two additional front page articles about the report that were of particular interest locally: the exoneration of Dallas.

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 741509)

Being a veterinarian, my first thoughts thinking of "violent Acorn mobs" involved rabid squirrels.

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 741509)

In his slight defense it wasn't from a blog. He just copy and pasted from a pretty amusing thread on another message board. Facts aren't really important in the circle jerk they have going on over there.