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Dahoss 11-02-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 715069)
Off of only a single uninspiring race this year? Not for me.

I think she's going to get a lot out of that start. She really only ran for a furlong or so in the Gallant Bloom. The Godolphin horses really haven't been firing off the long layoffs here like they had in years past. But some have run a lot better second back. Plus she is getting a giant jock upgrade.

I think she has a very good shot in here.

cakes44 11-02-2010 02:29 PM

So what is the ML on Evening Jewel?

ateamstupid 11-02-2010 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 715085)
I think she's going to get a lot out of that start. She really only ran for a furlong or so in the Gallant Bloom. The Godolphin horses really haven't been firing off the long layoffs here like they had in years past. But some have run a lot better second back. Plus she is getting a giant jock upgrade.

I think she has a very good shot in here.

I think the Gallant Bloom in general is better than the figs suggest. I like Moontune Missy to hit the board at a high number too.

randallscott35 11-02-2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 715090)
I think the Gallant Bloom in general is better than the figs suggest. I like Moontune Missy to hit the board at a high number too.

Possible. I like cutbacks though. Evening Jewel is one of the ones.

Dahoss 11-02-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 715090)
I think the Gallant Bloom in general is better than the figs suggest. I like Moontune Missy to hit the board at a high number too.

I like her a bit as well...but I liked her a lot more last time and that head cost me a grand. It's a fascinating race and I can't see using any horse less than double digit odds. IMO all of the favorites have major holes in them.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-02-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 715077)
Granted it was probably a lot farther than she wants to go but I didn't think much of her dirt race. The pace was decent but she folded up and Gulfstream isn't exactly a track known for exposing distance-challenged horses.

It was a nice race for a mile from a lightly raced horse.

They ran three 9f routes that day:

Devil May Care went her mile in 1:35.59

Rule went his mile in 1:36.09 on a 2 length lead in the Fla Derby before caving in late.

Unrivalled Belle went her mile in 1:36.25 on a 1.5 length lead

Basically - Switch ran her mile in the same time as Rule did in the Florida Derby .. and she was mixing it up with a pack of pretty good in-form 3yo filly milers like Amen Hall and Christine Daae.

analyizethis 11-02-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 711847)
FILLY & MARE TURF (6:50p)

1. Midday (H. Cecil/T. Queally)
2. Eclair de Lune (R. McAnally/J. Alvarado)
3. Plumania (A. Fabre/O. Peslier) -- Turf
4. Red Desire (M. Matsunaga/C. Soumillion) -- Turf
5. Forever Together (J. Sheppard/J. Leparoux)
6. Miss Keller (R. Attfield/J. Castellano)
7. Shared Account (G. Motion/E. Prado)
8. Hot Cha Cha (P. Sims/J. Graham)
9. Keertana (T. Proctor/J. Lezcano)
10. Hibaayeb (S. bin Suroor)
11. Shared Account (G. Motion/E. Prado)

HELP! Shared Account listed twice in F & M Turf, no Harmonious.

chucklestheclown 11-02-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by analyizethis (Post 715120)
HELP! Shared Account listed twice in F & M Turf, no Harmonious.

She is a super-horse.

Kasept 11-02-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by analyizethis (Post 715120)
HELP! Shared Account listed twice in F & M Turf, no Harmonious.

It hasn't been revised yet (posts, final jock or odds).

Kasept 11-02-2010 04:01 PM

JUVENILE FILLIES (6:10p)

1. Indian Gracey (J. Hollendorfer/R. Bejarano) 15-1
2. Theysken's Theory (F. Dettori) 10-1
3. R Heat Lightning (T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez) 4-1
4. Awesome Feather (S. Gold/J. Sanchez) 6-1
5. Harlan's Ruby (K. McPeek/J. Leparoux) 15-1
6. Joyful Victory (A. Dutrow/R. Dominguez) 15-1
7. Izshelegal (T. Knight/M. Smith) 30-1
8. A Z Warrior (B. Baffert/M. Garcia) 7-2*
9. Delightful Mary (M. Casse/S. Bridgmohan) 8-1
10. Believe in A.P. (R. Dutrow/G. Gomez) 15-1
11. Soundwave (R. Werner/R. Albarado) 20-1
12. Tell A Kelly (J. Sadler/C. Borel) 9-2
13. Jordy Y (W. Catalano/J. Rosario) 30-1

Kasept 11-02-2010 04:07 PM

FILLY & MARE TURF (6:50p)

1. Plumania (A. Fabre/O. Peslier) 8-1
2. Eclair de Lune (R. McAnally/J. Alvarado) 15-1
3. Miss Keller (R. Attfield/J. Castellano) 8-1
4. Keertana (T. Proctor/J. Lezcano) 30-1
5. Shared Account (G. Motion/E. Prado) 30-1
6. Harmonious (J. Sherriffs/J. Rosario) 6-1
7. Midday (H. Cecil/T. Queally) 6-5*
8. Hot Cha Cha (P. Sims/J. Graham) 30-1
9. Hibaayeb (S. bin Suroor/F. Dettori) 8-1
10. Red Desire (M. Matsunaga/C. Soumillion) 8-1
11. Forever Together (J. Sheppard/J. Leparoux) 10-1

The Indomitable DrugS 11-02-2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 715165)
FILLY & MARE TURF (6:50p)

1. Plumania (A. Fabre/O. Peslier) 8-1
2. Eclair de Lune (R. McAnally/J. Alvarado) 15-1
3. Miss Keller (R. Attfield/J. Castellano) 8-1
4. Keertana (T. Proctor/J. Lezcano) 30-1
5. Shared Account (G. Motion/E. Prado) 30-1
6. Harmonious (J. Sherriffs/J. Rosario) 6-1
7. Midday (H. Cecil/T. Queally) 6-5*
8. Hot Cha Cha (P. Sims/J. Graham) 30-1
9. Hibaayeb (S. bin Suroor/F. Dettori) 8-1
10. Red Desire (M. Matsunaga/C. Soumillion) 8-1
11. Forever Together (J. Sheppard/J. Leparoux) 10-1

How can you not like 10/1 on Forever Together while breaking from the 11 hole - winless for the last year and a half and off of two horrible performances.

NTamm1215 11-02-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 715099)
It was a nice race for a mile from a lightly raced horse.

They ran three 9f routes that day:

Devil May Care went her mile in 1:35.59

Rule went his mile in 1:36.09 on a 2 length lead in the Fla Derby before caving in late.

Unrivalled Belle went her mile in 1:36.25 on a 1.5 length lead

Basically - Switch ran her mile in the same time as Rule did in the Florida Derby .. and she was mixing it up with a pack of pretty good in-form 3yo filly milers like Amen Hall and Christine Daae.

I see what you're saying I'm just not keen on her in this spot. It's a tremendously wide open race and the Z crowd will guarantee she and Rinterval are overbet I think.

Betsy 11-02-2010 04:38 PM

Can't complain too badly, though I hate the #1 post for Biondetti.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-02-2010 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 715181)
I see what you're saying I'm just not keen on her in this spot. It's a tremendously wide open race and the Z crowd will guarantee she and Rinterval are overbet I think.

Most of the "Z crowd" seem to think the horse is like some kind of equine drama queen who is more concerened with dancing in the pre-race and pricking her ears for the photo finish camera than anything else.

Put her in with Ohio breds at Thistle or with Indy Cars at the Brickyard and the result will be the same... a well timed narrow Zenyatta win.

I doubt a whole lot of them are planning their Friday around betting Switch and Rinterval.

VOL JACK 11-02-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 715181)
I see what you're saying I'm just not keen on her in this spot. It's a tremendously wide open race and the Z crowd will guarantee she and Rinterval are overbet I think.

How do you explain Rinterval taking no money in her last start at Kee?

my miss storm cat 11-02-2010 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 715165)
FILLY & MARE TURF (6:50p)

1. Plumania (A. Fabre/O. Peslier) 8-1
2. Eclair de Lune (R. McAnally/J. Alvarado) 15-1
3. Miss Keller (R. Attfield/J. Castellano) 8-1
4. Keertana (T. Proctor/J. Lezcano) 30-1
5. Shared Account (G. Motion/E. Prado) 30-1
6. Harmonious (J. Sherriffs/J. Rosario) 6-1
7. Midday (H. Cecil/T. Queally) 6-5*
8. Hot Cha Cha (P. Sims/J. Graham) 30-1
9. Hibaayeb (S. bin Suroor/F. Dettori) 8-1
10. Red Desire (M. Matsunaga/C. Soumillion) 8-1
11. Forever Together (J. Sheppard/J. Leparoux) 10-1

This is a really nice field but ummm 6/5 on Midday?

With Plumania and Red Desire in the same field?

Ummm okaaaay.

NTamm1215 11-02-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 715220)
How do you explain Rinterval taking no money in her last start at Kee?

Rinterval should and will be a longshot in the F/M Sprint. The question to me boiled down to whether Switch is a good bet at what will be her closing odds (I'm guessing somewhere in the neighborhood of 12-1).

Mike 11-02-2010 07:39 PM

I'm seeing Evening Jewel at 15-1 in Filly and Mare Sprint

SOREHOOF 11-02-2010 08:17 PM

I'd love to see 15-1 on Friday!


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