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PatCummings 08-21-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggerv (Post 685942)
Debussy wins by 5+ if he is not blocked by slugs Quite a Handful and General Quarters on the turn. He was absolutely loaded but had to sit and wait. I wouldn't call any of their trips troubled either. My only point was GP and Debussy likely lost as many lengths as Tazeez did when he reared.

When did Debussy lose lengths due to anyone in that race, maybe a length, MAYBE, leaving the backstretch (but that was due to others quickening before he did).

It's not just about losing ground to me, it's about being completely thrown off your game, rushed up, backed down, then asked to run your fastest quarter in the third quarter of a five quarter race, and STILL being in the frame at the end.

jwkniska 08-21-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 685446)

One word that describes Debussy since settling into Arlington? Swagger.

Brian, great call!

brianwspencer 08-21-2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska (Post 685949)
Brian, great call!

Thanks, JW -- wasn't sold on paper, but couldn't count him out after the AM works.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-21-2010 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi (Post 685881)
I have been saying that for a while. When real money is on the line he doesnt deliver. However most people on this board thinks he is the greatest turf rider in the last 30 yrs

I don't know about 30 - but he's unquestionably the best turf rider since Bailey retired - and for my money he's better than Bailey ever was in turf races.

VOL JACK 08-21-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogey (Post 685922)
Totally agree after his terrible start took him out of his game. Fine effort. Gosden came loaded this year. Congrats to him for finally getting the win in the MILLION. Class act. Congrats to all connected with Debussy. Probably pointed to the BC Turf at CD according to Gosden.




Lock city!!

Bogey 08-21-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 685967)
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Lock city!!

Let's hope that PG doesn't hop aboard.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-21-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 685967)
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Lock city!!

I doubt it.

I would obviously expect a much deeper group of Euro's to show up for the BC Turf than the 3 who came over for the AP Million today.

Running over the top of Gio Ponti isn't exactly impressive when he applies the air breaks like he did. The 3rd place finisher in the Million got a really oddball ride. He reared at the start - pushed the pace - and his rider acted as though the 1/4 pole was really the finish line. That was like vintage Jamie Spencer.

eajinabi 08-22-2010 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 685955)
I don't know about 30 - but he's unquestionably the best turf rider since Bailey retired - and for my money he's better than Bailey ever was in turf races.

Value wise you are going to get a better price on Dominguez than you would on Bailey. HOWEVER when the going gets tough I would take bailey over Dominguez anyday. Dominguez is a great common every day claiming rider but he is no Bailey.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-22-2010 12:11 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8a4d...feature=search


By the way: Bailey had a ton of caddy's for guys like Mott and Frankel in those big Gr 1 turf races.

eajinabi 08-22-2010 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 685996)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8a4d...feature=search


By the way: Bailey had a ton of caddy's for guys like Mott and Frankel in those big Gr 1 turf races.

Nice link. Dominguez wins his lone BC win. What does that prove??

If I could only find the link for Baileys win on Chester House in the 2000 Arlington million as a rebuttal. Brilliant ride!

-BT- 08-22-2010 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 685945)
When did Debussy lose lengths due to anyone in that race, maybe a length, MAYBE, leaving the backstretch (but that was due to others quickening before he did).

It's not just about losing ground to me, it's about being completely thrown off your game, rushed up, backed down, then asked to run your fastest quarter in the third quarter of a five quarter race, and STILL being in the frame at the end.

excellent ride by the jock, i thought he did lose some lengths when the 5 started backing up, almost thought the five was gonna take him out of the whole race. I literally told myself (no lie) watching the replay if the 2 gets a hole he looks the best, never thought he had the turn of foot to gun down gio ponti though, that horse came flying. one of the most patient rides i've seen in years, much the best today.

-bt-

GPK 08-22-2010 01:19 PM

Anyone have a link to the replays? Calracing doesn't show AP

The Indomitable DrugS 08-22-2010 01:26 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aW3VqJVgCo

Bigsmc 08-22-2010 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 686218)
Anyone have a link to the replays? Calracing doesn't show AP

You have to sign up (it's free).

http://www.arlingtonpark.com/video

GPK 08-22-2010 01:30 PM

Free? I like that word.:)

Thanks guys.

GPK 08-22-2010 01:34 PM

Pretty patient ride from that kid. Nice turn of foot by the winner too.

brockguy 08-22-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 686229)
Pretty patient ride from that kid. Nice turn of foot by the winner too.

I'm not certain it was patient by design! He pretty much had to sit and suffer, but once he got out the acceleration was brilliant! It was an excellent weekend for Buick as he went to France today and won a G1 on a ridiculous outsider!!

GPK 08-22-2010 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy (Post 686237)
I'm not certain it was patient by design! He pretty much had to sit and suffer, but once he got out the acceleration was brilliant! It was an excellent weekend for Buick as he went to France today and won a G1 on a ridiculous outsider!!

He also could have panicked and tried to force something that wasn't there.

RockHardTen1985 08-22-2010 07:04 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY_2h...eature=related

hockey2315 08-22-2010 07:28 PM

hahahaha i saw that too


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