Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 657615)

If you watched the Californian and thought afterwards that Zenyatta is ready to take on Rail Trip in the HOL Gold Cup then you need to get a prescription for new goggles. Hell, her own trainer isn't even willing to take him on and I don't blame them, he's back in form and loves that track.

NT

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 657618)

Well, in all fairness, the trainer of Rail Trip didn't exactly sound jazzed up to take on Zenyatta post-race yesterday either.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 657627)

He was probably trying to avoid an argument with the gleeful Zenyatta backers.

I don't want to rain on the Zenyatta fan parade because I know she's a terrific horse who has done some very nice things. But, the hyperbole going around about yesterday's win is just idiotic. It was not a particularly strong race and ultimately presented one of the best setups she's ever had (with the BC Classic right up there as well). It should make anyone who thinks she is a legitimate contender to beat males in a race like the BC Classic understand that she's not there yet. At all.

NT

Originally Posted by CSC (Post 657625)

I've seen your comments about St. Trinians and they are no surprise, funny that only works one way when your horse is discussed. When it comes to anything to do with Zenyatta barring her beating Quality Road while carrying 129 and running a 115-ish beyer, you guys just may concede she is not just the luckiest horse on earth.

BTW How much weight did the Rail Trip carry in the Californian..let me help you 118, how much weight did Zenyatta carry in the Vanity 129, I'll do the math for you guys also, that is 11lbs + more, do you want to add on a sex for age allowance also? I think she did just fine.

Originally Posted by CSC (Post 657630)

I dare you to say that on Steve's show, I wonder how your credibilty will hold up after that?

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 657631)

There's no point in me discussing anything about this with you. You'll grasp at straws, like weight, when all else fails. However, don't insult other people's handicapping methods, especially when they're dealing with fundamentals of handicapping like final times. Unless you feel obligated to thump your chest some more about the 2 winners you posted last year.

NT

Originally Posted by CSC (Post 657634)

Ditto Nick. When it comes to Zenyatta your bias really shows. That's fine, I as a fan of racing enjoyed yesterday's race immensely, it's too bad others can't.

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 657590)

Now that the (super impressive) win record is in the bag … there's really only one more major goal for Z this season …defending her BCC title.

Forget about this RA … if they want a piece of Z let them come to Cali.

And forget about the subjective HotY award … it has already been cheapened too much over the years with selections like FT and RA.


The real goal now is taking down back-to-back Classics.

First 6-year-old to win the great American race … and the first to do it on different surfaces


That's some SERIOUS stuff right there, kids.


Needless to say, though, it won't be easy … the odds are clearly against her.

But Shirreffs has to keep his eye on the ball now … and do the best that he can to get her to the Downs in the best possible condition...



17-0 :tro: :cool:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 657494)

St. Trinian looked like a $50,000 claimer deep stretch.

Originally Posted by smuthg (Post 657647)

A $50,000 claimer that was the post-time favorite in the Big 'Cap last out...

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 657619)

:tro::tro::tro:

Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 657652)

Grade inflation at its worst.



--Dunbar

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 657632)

Don't dare me to do anything. I have no reputation and a fan base that consists of RockHardTen1985 and sometimes GBBob if I'm nice to him.

NT

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 657602)

I'm thinking of starting a poll.

What should your new user name be.

Smooth Operatard

or

Prostate Operator

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 657590)

Now that the (super impressive) win record is in the bag … there's really only one more major goal for Z this season …defending her BCC title.

Forget about this RA … if they want a piece of Z let them come to Cali.

And forget about the subjective HotY award … it has already been cheapened too much over the years with selections like FT and RA.


The real goal now is taking down back-to-back Classics.

First 6-year-old to win the great American race … and the first to do it on different surfaces


That's some SERIOUS stuff right there, kids.


Needless to say, though, it won't be easy … the odds are clearly against her.

But Shirreffs has to keep his eye on the ball now … and do the best that he can to get her to the Downs in the best possible condition...



17-0 :tro: :cool:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 657478)

Just take a break for a few hours and let reality set in.

Originally Posted by Left Bank (Post 657666)

Oh No! Gotta fly over D'em ROCKIES to get there!:eek: