If you are strictly talking about the PETA factor, there is no conversation. They will find fault in any situation.

I believe it because it is true.

Yes he is. How else could this mushmouth slob be doing this well with thoroughbreds? I remember him before this sire. He wasn't much. He was a mushmouth slob (of course.) His ways of running the same horse every Friday Night etc. didn't really work with horses sired by other sires. He hit Lotto with this sire. Like he has stated, he bred him to nothing, and got a lot. They might not be world class horses, but they weren't bred to be that. If he gets some top mares, look out. I mean, lets face it, the guy wasn't a great claiming trainer. So, he and his people got tired of that. He, and his people couldn't (or wouldn't) pay what people wanted for decent young horses at sales. So, they decided to have Unusual Heat f every cheap mare they had. They ended up hitting Lotto. He's a really good sire. Maybe he hasn't had the world class horses yet, but they are very tough (both physically and mentally.) Very little of the stuff this trainer makes these horses do would work with horses by other sires. Lethal Heat is as tough a competitor as you'll ever find. She's got a favorite distance, but she's gunna keep trying, regardless. This is all about that sire. One thing I do think is that Lethal Heat was running with at least a 36 Co2 on Saturday. That's the one time she has ever shown a kick going 2 turns. She was especially effervescing, but we have a high threshold out here. Really is amazing that anyone is ever caught alkalizing out here. It's not like they're looking very hard.

I imagine Cannon will want to rethink things now.

Too bad for you. As it happens, Unusual Heat's dam was a multiple champion, having won the Oaks in both Sweden and Denmark and beaten the colts to win the Swedish and Danish Derbies and the Danish St. Leger. Yes, in the scheme of things these are at the listed level in Europe, but Rossard(Den) proved she wasn't a fraudulent classic winner by scoring in the Flower Bowl H (G1) in the US.

Stymie was claimed, for $1500; he went on to lead the US earnings list until Citation came along. Princequillo was claimed; he went on to become a leading dirt stayer, a top sire, and many-time leading broodmare sire. John Henry was claimed; he went on to win G1 races every year from age 5 to 9. Being claimed is not the mark of Cain. And in this case, we aren't talking cheap claimers, either: Claiming $80K or $125 are what tracks wrote for horses who had gone through all of their allowance conditions already, hardly expecting that somebody was going to put up that kind of cash.

Unusual Heat was a stakes-winning horse at 3 and 4 in Ireland with 2 serious problems; he disliked wet turf courses and he hated The Curragh, where most better races are run in Ireland. He was off for a year between his last race in Ireland and his first in the US, so one must hypothesize that something went amiss with him during that time. Oftentimes horses who come back from illness or injury are not as good as they were beforehand, in case you haven't noticed. But their genes are still the same.

I knew all of that already. Isn't google swell?



I know .... but were any of them vanned off less than 3 weeks after being claimed never to race again?

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How does this topic get 6 pages of replies...?

Poor Golden Man. I hope they retire him off of THAT effort. Of course, he is 7 now.