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stonegossard 11-26-2009 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
I must have SOME clue because there are two Eclipse awards sitting on my mantle. They look really nice over the fireplace. They're not going anywhere.


You just don't get it Vic. You never will. If you can't see how bad you come off in that Paulick blog then so be it. But hey....if you want to continue to post on the internet and make a jackass out of yourself go for it.

stonegossard 11-26-2009 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
Where did I say accuracy wasn't important? Of course it's important. Where did I say we didn't care? We made a mistake. We wish we hadn't. The piece was over 11 minutes. It was aired the first time by Mike Willman the day before Laffit's Birthday. There is no way I would have asked him to re-air it weeks after. I didn't have my own show. Any piece cannot be submitted without being presented on an over the air radio station. This isn't espionage. It's entertainment. Say hi to Jay when you see him at the plant!

While I respect that journalistic accuracy is important to Jay. It was less so for us.


Make up your mind Vic.

CSC 11-26-2009 12:29 PM

If anyone hasn't, it's a very entertaining read on Paullick's blog. Just pass over the article and head straight to the comments section. It's not often the comments section is a better read than the article itself.

Peter Berry 11-26-2009 01:47 PM

Has the error now been corrected for future airings?

v j stauffer 11-26-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I take it they are on both sides of the Liberace painting on the wall?

How did you know that?

v j stauffer 11-26-2009 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Berry
Has the error now been corrected for future airings?

No Pete. It was almost five years ago and we haven't re-aired it. Perhaps when Laffit is approaching another birthday. Believe me. It will be fixed if we do. Hey maybe we'll submit it and try to win again. Or would that be "unseemly" ?

v j stauffer 11-26-2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard
You just don't get it Vic. You never will. If you can't see how bad you come off in that Paulick blog then so be it. But hey....if you want to continue to post on the internet and make a jackass out of yourself go for it.

Listen Mister. This was a multi-media award. I'm not limiting myself to making a jackass of myself ONLY on the internet!!

westcoastinvader 11-26-2009 10:38 PM

Vic, good to hear you today while watching the TVG telecast.

We had my mother in law over and I was able to say "Hey, I 'know' that guy from a horse racing board!" while we flipped through television events and conversation through the day.

While he was on TVG today I also was able to point out to my mother in law that I had "met" Frank Mirahmadi a couple times as he did the morning events before California fair racing meets (he handed me a t-shirt once or twice or something....:-)....)

I'm pretty sure I didn't score points with my mother in law for my racing and gambling references today. But she's put up with my exposing her daughter to my love of horse racing and gambling for many years now.

And this year she has decided to donate money to race horse rescue.

Sometimes good things DO happen in strange ways.

:-)

chucklestheclown 11-27-2009 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
No Pete. It was almost five years ago and we haven't re-aired it. Perhaps when Laffit is approaching another birthday. Believe me. It will be fixed if we do. Hey maybe we'll submit it and try to win again. Or would that be "unseemly" ?

Of course not! As long as you air it on a different band.

Kasept 12-03-2009 04:23 PM

CHRB refuses to dismiss Rosario case
 
FULL: http://www.drf.com/news/article/109334.html

INGLEWOOD, Calif. - Three California Horse Racing Board stewards denied a request from jockey Joel Rosario's attorney on Thursday to dismiss a case alleging that the jockey failed to put forth his best effort in a turf race at Del Mar on Sept. 6.

The case will resume Dec. 11, with defense testimony from Rosario and others. Rosario, the leading rider at the Del Mar meeting, could face a fine or suspension if he is found in violation of the rules.

johnny pinwheel 12-03-2009 04:33 PM

have any of you guys seen the race? i'm just wondering because i have not. is there anything to this?

10 pnt move up 12-03-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel
have any of you guys seen the race? i'm just wondering because i have not. is there anything to this?

It looked odd, but you see odd stuff all the time.......frankly if the story about Vic asking if he the horse was for sale had not come out I wonder how this story plays out.

NTamm1215 12-03-2009 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
It looked odd, but you see odd stuff all the time.......frankly if the story about Vic asking if he the horse was for sale had not come out I wonder how this story plays out.

I agree and the problem is that if you hear about that first then watch the race it seems easy to get suspicious.

Personally, I think it was a pretty strange ride. I don't know if this wild goose chase is worth it but it's easy to get a little skeptical watching it.

NT

freddymo 12-03-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
FULL: http://www.drf.com/news/article/109334.html

INGLEWOOD, Calif. - Three California Horse Racing Board stewards denied a request from jockey Joel Rosario's attorney on Thursday to dismiss a case alleging that the jockey failed to put forth his best effort in a turf race at Del Mar on Sept. 6.

The case will resume Dec. 11, with defense testimony from Rosario and others. Rosario, the leading rider at the Del Mar meeting, could face a fine or suspension if he is found in violation of the rules.


Does Vic share in 1/4 of the attorney fees?

johnny pinwheel 12-04-2009 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I agree and the problem is that if you hear about that first then watch the race it seems easy to get suspicious.

Personally, I think it was a pretty strange ride. I don't know if this wild goose chase is worth it but it's easy to get a little skeptical watching it.

NT

thats what i'm wondering. the actions after the fact brought on suspicion or is the ride that bad? it was maidens so the horses themselves sometimes run weird. green , stop and go. i gotta see that replay.

Coach Pants 12-04-2009 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Does Vic share in 1/4 of the attorney fees?

:tro::tro:

randallscott35 12-04-2009 12:56 PM

Where there's smoke?

docicu3 12-04-2009 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Where there's smoke?


There are other threads that have beaten this one into the polytrack.....

It looked bad, though not illegal, when Vic inquired about the horse being available for sale after Rosario came in 4th in that turf race the trainer believed the horse was a lock for only the day before.

Why the CHRB is choosing this ride to get tough seems a bit much for a horse who led a race during the initial stages is caught and then at best could have possibly challenged for a hotly contested third.

If they are going to discipline Rosario for this they better be consistent about this standard going forward. Hopefully Steve will ask the West Coast connection about this today.

Honu 12-04-2009 02:06 PM

I dont see what the crime was , was he supposed to send his horse when the other two charged him at the half mile pole? Would have the gamblers seen something they would have thought was on the sly if he would have stayed 8 wide and got beat? If the trainer thought his horse was so much the best then why hadnt he won before this day or after ? What would Joel have to gain by stiffing a maiden ? I dont know but Im sure Im about to be enlightened. Maybe the trainer was just mad because he got beat by a long shot who had been off for almost 6 months who really isnt that great of a horse?
Seems to me there are alot more suspect rides around than this , like a guy standing up before the wire for third ( like Kent D ).

TheSpyder 12-04-2009 07:58 PM

For whatever reason, how many times have you seen a horse that was claimed get a lame ride? Seems to happen a lot.


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